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Kazakh
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Posts: 97
 Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:53 pm
On this board I see many people who naively believe everything they hear/see on the news and see the world in strictly black-and-white. Well, I'd like to give some food for thought. Somebody said to me at another thread that I support Bashir Al-Assad of Syria, whom I of course don't. He's kind of a dictator my own lifelong president Nursultan Nazarbayev is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y09RnHo-lBohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCK6rQt7WbUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCb0S3kPPsABut Nazarbayev gave all the oil and gas resources in concession to the US and Chinese companies. When those super powers say, "jump" he says "how high?" all the while oppressing, killing, robbing his own people like you wouldn't believe. There are many dictators who commit terrible atrocities every day for decades, but nobody cares. They are legitimate and respected world leaders. They do what they're told, they give up their country's sovereignty and by that buy their right to be the ruthless kings of their poor people. As soon as they have the guts or stupidity to try and be independent from the world owners, try to have an independent Central Bank, control their resources etc., they are immediately proclaimed "the evilest of evil".... Immediately bombs rain, millions die and millions become refugees, country is thrown into chaos and destruction for decades if not centuries... "HYPOCRICY" comes to mind. Nothing unusual, there are no good or bad guys, there are interests and some powers playing games. The strongest wins, the weakest loses, that's it.
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:01 pm
"He's a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch" still applies
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:35 pm
Well look at the bright side. In 80 years, you'll be dead. 
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Posts: 9914
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:36 pm
The US is always right, in their own minds, but it has to happen somewhere.
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Posts: 4661
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:45 pm
The U.S. is always right on some topics, such as how to get to the moon.
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Posts: 13404
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:27 pm
(pssst! A bunch of Germans put them there!)
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Posts: 7684
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:34 pm
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: (pssst! A bunch of Germans put them there!) Don't forget all the Canadian engineers that went into the US space program when Diefenbaker killed Avro.
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Posts: 13404
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:46 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656: Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: (pssst! A bunch of Germans put them there!) Don't forget all the Canadian engineers that went into the US space program when Diefenbaker killed Avro. My wife's grandfather was one of them. He went from Orenda (the Arrow engine maker) to working on Mercury, Gemini, Apollo along with literally thousands of other Canadian aerospace engineers. A big group went to McDonnell Douglas where they also designed the F-4 Phantom. Take a look at the cockpit , nose, intakes. It is pure Avro Arrow. Another group formed the nucleus of designers of the LEM. Yet anther group went to the UK and led the development of the Concord. If you get the chance, watch film footage of the Arrow taking off and landing. It is a quite distinctive motion. Then watch film of the Concord doing the same thing. It looks like the same aircraft. Anyway, enough of this flag-waving. Whatever they did, it all got a "Proudly Made in U.S.A." label slapped on it somewhere along the line and the Americans invented space travel after that.
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rickc
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2943
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:14 pm
Kazakh Kazakh: On this board I see many people who naively believe everything they hear/see on the news and see the world in strictly black-and-white. Well, I'd like to give some food for thought. Somebody said to me at another thread that I support Bashir Al-Assad of Syria, whom I of course don't. He's kind of a dictator my own lifelong president Nursultan Nazarbayev is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y09RnHo-lBohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCK6rQt7WbUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCb0S3kPPsABut Nazarbayev gave all the oil and gas resources in concession to the US and Chinese companies. When those super powers say, "jump" he says "how high?" all the while oppressing, killing, robbing his own people like you wouldn't believe. There are many dictators who commit terrible atrocities every day for decades, but nobody cares. They are legitimate and respected world leaders. They do what they're told, they give up their country's sovereignty and by that buy their right to be the ruthless kings of their poor people. As soon as they have the guts or stupidity to try and be independent from the world owners, try to have an independent Central Bank, control their resources etc., they are immediately proclaimed "the evilest of evil".... Immediately bombs rain, millions die and millions become refugees, country is thrown into chaos and destruction for decades if not centuries... "HYPOCRICY" comes to mind. Nothing unusual, there are no good or bad guys, there are interests and some powers playing games. The strongest wins, the weakest loses, that's it. Where did you come up with the title for this thread? You live in Canada. Surely you have access to American media. Spend one hour watching Fox news, and the next hour watching MSNBC. You would not think that they were talking about the same country. Its almost impossible to do anything in the States without pissing off half of the population. I seriously doubt any country on the planet spends as much time second guessing itself as the U.S. does. We do not have the benefit of a shirtless strongman (who is willing to take time out from his wrestling Siberian tigers to manipulate the government, and rig elections ) to tell us what to think, and thus get us all pulling on the same side of the rope. One can only dream. 
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Posts: 980
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:15 pm
How the heck we think where always right when we elected a idiot who plays Golf and campaigns more then leading and presiding over Government lol. We elected a Country club quacker. Now back to the Texas Republic Separatist movement lol. Quebecitis is catchy this season lol.
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Posts: 14139
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:42 pm
The US is definitely NOT always right. For instance, it's been left for the last 6 years 
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Posts: 10503
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:59 pm
Vamp018 Vamp018: How the heck we think where always right when we elected a idiot who plays Golf and campaigns more then leading and presiding over Government lol. We elected a Country club quacker. Now back to the Texas Republic Separatist movement lol. Quebecitis is catchy this season lol. To be fair that sounds like the last 4 presidents.
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Posts: 980
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:24 am
llama66 llama66: Vamp018 Vamp018: How the heck we think where always right when we elected a idiot who plays Golf and campaigns more then leading and presiding over Government lol. We elected a Country club quacker. Now back to the Texas Republic Separatist movement lol. Quebecitis is catchy this season lol. To be fair that sounds like the last 4 presidents. You maybe onto something and i am open minded. Now a ?, Which President has a body count higher from his inside Clinton or Obama?
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:12 am
George W Bush and Dick Cheney have the highest body count on a Presidential administration since Nixon. And now's your opportunity to go Bizzarroland and claim otherwise.....
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Posts: 13404
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:50 am
Thanos Thanos: George W Bush and Dick Cheney have the highest body count on a Presidential administration since Nixon. And now's your opportunity to go Bizzarroland and claim otherwise..... They iz white. This is a key factor working away in the cerebella of the average Republican. They will deny, deny, though.
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