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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:22 am
 


I doubt it'll shut up the putzes who were flapping their gobs about the blockade being illegal though.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:29 am
 


Shunning Israel is part of Turkey's plan for rapprochement(sp?) with the Arabs. Turkey has been a bit of a pariah in the ME since the fall of the Ottoman Empire. They were hated as for being non Arab, former oppressive overlords and staunchly secular, who were trying to show they had more in common with Europe than the ME.

In the past 20 years this has changed dramatically. The EU has kept on refusing their bid for membership, and Islamist political clout, once brutally suppressed by the military, is on the rise,... using the democratic process to ultimately subvert any chance of a liberal democracy taking root in Turkey. The West has rejected Turkey, so once again, they turn their eyes to their south east. If you're looking for a home and friends in the ME, you can't be seen as a friend and ally of Israel....it's just not halal.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:39 am
 


Here are 20 conveniently overlooked facts that give some perspective to the current Middle East situation. These were compiled by a Christian university professor.....

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4.The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Bible. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David (of Israel) founded the city of Jerusalem (in 1000 B.C.E.). Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

9. Arab and Jewish refugees: Arabs were not driven out of their homes. Following the UN decision on Partition in 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, promising to purge the land of Jews. They argued that an "Arab presence" would only get in the way of the planned devastation. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees absorbed by Israel from Arab countries is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank and autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied their police and security forces with weapons.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Jewish grave markers were used to build public urinals in occupied Jerusalem. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The U.N. record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel -- notwithstanding the fact that the Arabs refused to participate in the 15 nation United Nations Commission of Palestine which recommended partition in 1948 and sought immediately to undo its work by force of arms.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

18. The U.N. was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians between 1948 and 1967.

19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives between 1948 and 1967.

20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall between 1948 and 1967.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/584615/posts


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:04 pm
 


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Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.


initially the first Muslims prayed towards Jerusalem, and it was only later that they chose Mecca, declaring that the old pagan altar, the Kaaba, had actually been built by Abraham and Ishmael


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:31 pm
 


Batsy wrote:
Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem
That's not true of Indonesian or European or North American Muslims, who all face essentially at both at once.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:50 pm
 


Batsy wrote:
Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem

What if you're in Beirut?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:22 pm
 


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