[Zipperfish]

saturn_656 wrote:

Turkey is more and more looking like a country in need of an "adjustment".

Right, you're in charge of that, then.

[Heycronie]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

it all started over a woman. Funny thing in that part of the world.

You mean Greeks vs Greeks as the Trojans were supposedly were. Dorians vs Ionians.

[ShepherdsDog]

Nope...they were Mycenaeans culturally...Dorians came into importance a few centuries later. The Dorians invading are thought to have been part of what overthrew Mycenaean civilization

[Zipperfish]

Grappling with muscular Turkey? Must be close to Thanksgiving.

What this article doesn't mention is that the Turks leave their sweaty unmentionables out to dry in the hallway and make the most appalling noises clearing their noses in the sink when I'm trying to brush my teeth. Certainly grounds for war there, I should think.

[fifeboy]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

fifeboy wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

it all started over a woman. Funny thing in that part of the world.

Yeah, her face launched a thousand ships. That's a lot of Champagne. I betcha Elizabeth II has launched less than 100.



FYI, I don't think the Turks had moved out of the steppes yet during Helen's time.

Genetically, the population didn't change that much after the Turks conquered Anatolia from the Byzantines. The Turkish soldiers just intermarried with the local populations, like previous conquerors had done. There's no real difference between a Greek and Turk, besides religion....just don't tell the Greeks that.

ANd you are right. And about the Turk=Greek thing. I have only met one Turk in all my days and a number of Greeks, and it is very good advice.

[fifeboy]

saturn_656 wrote:

Turkey is more and more looking like a country in need of an "adjustment".

Oh, right, a little shock and awe!

[fifeboy]

Heycronie wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

it all started over a woman. Funny thing in that part of the world.

You mean Greeks vs Greeks as the Trojans were supposedly were. Dorians vs Ionians.

Well, ya gotta admit, the Trojans had cool helmets.
But where did they wear them?

[GreenTiger]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

imagine if Paris had stolen the favourite goat of Menelaus....Greece would have been clear cut.

No, France would have surrendered to them as well.

[ShepherdsDog]

[Gunnair]

GreenTiger wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

imagine if Paris had stolen the favourite goat of Menelaus....Greece would have been clear cut.

No, France would have surrendered to them as well.

[Tricks]

GreenTiger wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

imagine if Paris had stolen the favourite goat of Menelaus....Greece would have been clear cut.

No, France would have surrendered to them as well.