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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:09 am
 


Due mostly to immigration, the UK's population is growing rapidly.

At the moment, the UK population is almost 63 million but, in 30 years' time, it will have overtaken Germany as the most populous nation in Europe (or, to be more precise, the most populous in the present EU).

Britain's population will soar by the equivalent of a city the size of Leeds every year for the next decade, according to official figures.

Over the next ten years, the population is expected to rise annually by 491,000, about the same as a city the size of Leeds.

In 2009, the UK accounted for a THIRD of the EU's population growth. Germany's population is shrinking and France's is growing but more slowly than Britain's.

Numbers will reach 70million in 2027 and 73.2million in 2035. In the same year, Britain will overtake France for numbers, and Germany, where low birthrates have resulted in a falling population, will be matched by 2043. The land area of Germany is 137,000 square miles – almost 50 per cent larger than the United Kingdom at 94,000 square miles.

England will experience the biggest population growth within the UK, with Scotland growing more slowly. Wales and NI will actually experience a fall in population.

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The UK is on course to becoming the largest country in the EU


Revised statistics show numbers rising at a sustained pace not matched for 100 years. And the main factor behind the increase is immigration. The projections suggest that, in just over 30 years, Britain will overtake Germany as the most populous country in Europe.

All estimates produced two years ago have been revised heavily upwards in a report published yesterday by the Office for National Statistics. Over the next ten years, the population is expected to rise annually by 491,000. Leeds’s current total is 486,000.

Most will live in the already-crowded South of England.

It is predicted that the landmark total of 70million – a figure the immigration minister in the last Labour government said would never be allowed – will be reached in the middle of 2027. This is two years earlier than previous reckoning. Two thirds of the overall growth in numbers, says the ONS, will be brought about either directly or indirectly by migration.

In the long term, net migration – the number added to the population every year through arrivals from abroad – will continue to run at 200,000 a year, the ONS said. This level, some 20,000 a year more than was predicted two years ago, is more than double the net migration that David Cameron has promised will be achieved by Coalition curbs.

The revised estimates come at a time of deepening concern over the effects of fast- rising population on housing, transport, water, power and state services such as education, health and welfare benefits

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:34 am
 


The native(those who can trace their roots back in terms of centuries and millenia) British will soon be a minority on their own island. And why is, that some people insist the Blacks and Indians are British too, while referring to the Afrikaaners(Dutch, British and French), Australians, Canadians(some who can trace their lineage back almost 450 years) and Americans(who've antecedents going back almost 350 years) as 'European' occupiers.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:01 am
 


more isn't better.

Hopefully other countries will at least learn from the UK's failure as a nation.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:15 am
 


How in the hell can 73 million people live in such a small country? I mean seriously, the UK is HALF the size of Alberta! Sorry, but I want some elbow room! :D


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:47 am
 


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How in the hell can 73 million people live in such a small country? I mean seriously, the UK is HALF the size of Alberta! Sorry, but I want some elbow room! :D

If Thatcher was still in charge, she might go looking for Lebensraum :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:56 am
 


It's no different if you live in the immigrant receiving cities in Canada. Lots of elbow room in Canada, but not in the big cities.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:18 am
 


andyt wrote:
It's no different if you live in the immigrant receiving cities in Canada. Lots of elbow room in Canada, but not in the big cities.


Sure there is - you just need to live in the suburbs instead of downtown - assuming you don't mind a commute to work.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:29 am
 


bootlegga wrote:
andyt wrote:
It's no different if you live in the immigrant receiving cities in Canada. Lots of elbow room in Canada, but not in the big cities.


Sure there is - you just need to live in the suburbs instead of downtown - assuming you don't mind a commute to work.


The immigrants aren't settling downtown. They settle on the perimiter of the city and in the suburbs. The Vancouver Sun just did a series on the ethnic enclaves we are developing - immigrants settle with their own kind and don't integrate. R(L?)ichmond is a prime example, S(C?)urry another one.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:59 am
 


The sky is falling much?

This just means the British aren't hypocrites, at least in terms of long term policy. They populated 3 continents in the last 400 years, and now they've allowed some people into their island, mostly from their former colonies.

I can't see anything wrong with this, and the British still have preferential treatment when it comes to immigrating out of Britain. Toronto is full of young Irish migrants.

I could be a hypocrite and say "The Irish ruined their own country by bankrupting it, and now they are in Canada, they'll bring bankruptcy here too".

But alas...I would start to sound like an ethno-conservative.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:54 am
 


I think most Brits grudgingly accept immigration. Mates of mine who were immigrants had no problems fitting in. The real problem that this posting hints at is the animosity between native Brits and the waves of recent Muslim immigration.


Because of demands and 'accommodation', the Brits have been forced to change. There has been no onus on integration placed or expected by the Pakistani/Bangladeshi communities, who are the main sources of tension. Add in the 711 bomb murders that killed dozens and the continuing arrests of mainly Pakistani linked terror plots and you have a country where the immigration debate is tainted by an ethnic and religious cold war that could turn hot at any time.


The old Etonians and Oxbridge establishment types who flung the gates open don't live in the numerous run-down urban centres where the natives are competing for scant resources with immigrant families with loads of kids and extended family members who don't want to become Brits. The natives are losing.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:48 pm
 


PM David Cameron has been talking of "10,000's of immigrants, not 100,000's". The PM at least isn't planning on a sardine can model of urban planning. The former labour government isn't keen on the result of their immigration policy either. Migration Watch UK http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:12 pm
 


bootlegga wrote:
How in the hell can 73 million people live in such a small country? I mean seriously, the UK is HALF the size of Alberta! Sorry, but I want some elbow room! :D

Didn't you say you'd visited Taiwan? 23 million people viving on an island the same size as Vancouver Island and and they live on onlt 1/6 of the island's area because the rest is huge mountains. But then again, the Chinese usually prefer to live in crowded conditions(by our standards) even when they don't have to


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:11 pm
 


Its been theorized by experts that the population of the U.S. will be 1 billion by the year 2100 8O


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