[tritium]

It seems like only yesterday that the left was opposed to all religious fascism, indeed all religion.

The Anti-War, Anti-Christmas, anti-Christian left are now supporting Burka's, preaching religious freedom, so long as it's not Christian I guess, it's o.k.

What Denmark can teach America about dealing with Muslims

[tritium]

Avro Avro:

It is also a thread to show who is intolerant to an entire culture, something you have never denied.

That's bigotry my friend and it won't heal the boo boo you suffered long ago, shame someone as smart as you let's personal feelings get in the way of pure sense, Hitler had the same problem.

Liberals always comparing everyone to "Hitler." WTF??

Hitler killed 100,000's of people. Please, when I kill as many people, then you can compare me to Hitler, otherwise you Liberals need to find a new villain.

Now if you want to make a reasonable comparison to Hitler, look at how many innocent people Islamic Terrorist of killed. Senseless killings, including their own.

Or better yet read this link below.

Islamic terrorism linked to Nazi fascists

[Scrappy]

That is a good question if they hate us so much, why don't they leave and go back to their beloved Motherland where they can don a burka and be beaten on a regular basis.

If they hate us so much, why don't they leave?
By RICHARD LITTLEJOHN, Daily Mail

Last updated at 11:44am on 8th August 2006

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More polls » Britain's most senior Asian police officer is calling for an independent judicial review into the causes of 'anger and resentment' among young British Muslims.

Tarique Ghaffur, an assistant commissioner in the Met, thinks anti-terror laws could 'criminalise' minority communities.

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• RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: If they hate us so much, why don't they leave?
• Muslim police chief calls for inquiry into extremism
• Almost a quarter of Muslims believe 7/7 was justified


'The impact of this will be just at the time we need the confidence and trust of these communities, they may retreat inside themselves,' he told the National Black Police Association's conference in Manchester.

Mr Ghaffur claimed that security measures being introduced across Europe and the use of 'unwanted practices' such as passenger profiling at airports and stop-and-search discriminate against Muslims. Anything which encourages ordinary Muslims to come forward and help the police and security services is welcome.

But it's curious that a high-ranking police officer, whose first duty is the safety of the public, should criticise measures aimed at saving lives as 'unwanted'.

Passenger profiling and stop-and-search may irritate young Muslims. But that is not the fault of the authorities, it is the fault of their co-religionists. It's not Sikhs, or Methodists, or Zoroastrians flying planes into buildings or blowing themselves up on public transport.

If Muslims object to close scrutiny when they travel by air, how do they think middle-aged Baptists like being subjected to body scans and having to walk across filthy airport floors without their shoes?

We are all inconvenienced by the war the Islamonazis have declared on our civilisation. And it is unfortunate that some Muslims fall under suspicion simply because they share certain characteristics with those responsible.

I didn't particularly like being searched going into Stuttgart football ground during the World Cup to watch England play Ecuador.

But the German authorities had worked out that English football hooligans tend to be white, male and English and so they weren't taking any chances with anyone who remotely fitted that description - no matter how old or well-dressed.

If 'community leaders' took the trouble to explain to young Muslims that increased security is for their benefit, too, and not use every opportunity to convince them that they are being victimised, there might be a little less anger and resentment.

Mr Ghaffur's speech coincided with the publication of a new survey which claims almost a quarter of British Muslims believe that the July 7 bombings were justified because of the Government's support for the war on terror.

The most hardline views came from young Muslims under the age of 24 who have grown up in Britain.

A third of Muslims think Britain has become so morally reprehensible that they would rather live under Sharia law and dream of this country becoming an Islamic state.

Plenty of non-Muslims have reached the same conclusion about the state of morals in this country. But they confine themselves to writing angry letters to the Daily Mail or moving to Spain.

They don't believe the answer is to turn Britain into a 7th-century theocracy, where women are second-class citizens and homosexuals are put to death.

I'm never sure how much credence to give these surveys, especially since four out of ten believe the fairy story that Lady Di was murdered by MI5 to stop her marrying a Muslim, Dodi Fayed. (But then again, so does the Daily Express.)

Even if it's only half true, then there's something dangerously wrong. Mr Ghaffur wants a judicial inquiry into the root causes, but that would probably only end up trotting out the usual excuses.

Since 9/11, we haven't stopped asking ourselves: why do they hate us? We've reached out more often than the Four Tops. We've picked enough fluff out of our navels to fill duvets for everyone in the Third World.

Moral decline


I'm sure that social deprivation and disgust at Britain's moral decline has something to do with the disenchantment and alienation. But that's not the whole story.

Young Muslims haven't been radicalised by scruffy housing, binge drinking and half-dressed slappers on every street corner. They have been told constantly by their self-appointed leaders and their imams that they are oppressed by widespread 'Islamophobia'.

They are encouraged to put loyalty to their faith above responsibility to their country of birth.

They are brainwashed into treating any misfortune which befalls any Muslim anywhere in the world as a personal insult.

Makeshift mosques in run-down backstreets and demented jihadist websites pump out hatred of the West, which is blamed for all the problems in the Muslim universe.

Fanatics are allowed to march through the streets preaching death to the infidel, death to Jews, death to just about anyone. For a peaceful religion, they're very big on death.

This is all coming from within the Muslim community, not from without. Is it any wonder that some of this constant ideological bombardment rubs off?

We don't need a judicial inquiry to tell us any of this.

The majority of Muslims in Britain make a valuable contribution and want to live a quiet life, just like the rest of us.

But, as this survey illustrates, a sizeable minority don't. They have no desire to adapt to Britain. They want Britain to adapt to them.

For a large number of Muslims, their faith is incompatible with Western freedoms and democracy.

No one is forced to remain here. As discussed in this column recently, hundreds of thousands of British citizens decide to emigrate every year.

If there are people who hate this country so much they think mass murder of civilians on our streets is justified and they would rather live in a fundamentalist Islamic state, all the judicial reviews in the world are not going to change their minds.

If we promise not to profile them at the airport, they should leave - and take their 'anger and resentment' with them.
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Well done yet again Richard. Your page is the first one I head for every Tuesday and Friday.

- Erik, Ayr, Scotland

Hurray for Littlejohn. He gets it right every time. I am very sure Lots of other people think the same.

- Jean , Stockport Cheshire

What a brilliant article - Richard Littlejohn says what we all say amongst ourselves. Just to add my support for a bit more common sense.

[icekarma2752]

people who stick up for moslems are very misguided or just out-right ignorant..yes canada is a country of religious freedom and should remain that way...sihks,budhists,hindus,jews,bahais,parsiis,scientologists..the list goes on..has demonstrated that they can live with us christians in harmony...unlike moslems and i watch with great satisfaction how the apologists for islam run out of arguments.as i've stated in previous threads all the pope does is make a factual statement on the history of islam and those monsters murder an elderly italian nun in revenge..some norwegian cartoonist makes a cartoon depicting mohhamed as terrorist and those monsters want to cut off his head for insulting islam(moslems seem to have a fixation for cutting off heads)..guess we have to wait until politicians grow the balls to declare adherents to islam as an "enemy of the state" and will be refused entry into our countries based on that..the bottom line is we have to ban islam

[Scrappy]

I'll raise you ten and you do just that Avro, people who have to leave their birth countries because of little socialist Nazis like you who turn free countries into hell holes that pander to those whom wish to kill us and force Extreme Islam down our throat. Put your money where you mouth is little man? Catholism isn't a religion it's Big Business, and it's as bad or worse than you Socialist.

I hate socialist like you Avro, you ruin free countries. I'm sorry you clean toilets for a living and I make over six figures a year but I have a trade license, a degree and a diploma. I took education seriously, you grabbed a plunger get over it ass wipe. Go back to school and stop blaming "Bush and the US" for your pathetic choices Avro.

[hwacker]

Avro Avro:

Scrappy Scrappy:

I'll raise you ten and you do just that Avro, people who have to leave their birth countries because of little socialist Nazis like you who turn free countries into hell holes that pander to those whom wish to kill us and force Extreme Islam down our throat. Put your money where you mouth is little man? Catholism isn't a religion it's Big Business, and it's as bad or worse than you Socialist.

I hate socialist like you Avro, you ruin free countries. I'm sorry you clean toilets for a living and I make over six figures a year but I have a trade license, a degree and a diploma. I took education seriously, you grabbed a plunger get over it ass wipe. Go back to school and stop blaming "Bush and the US" for your pathetic choices Avro.

LOL, you don't know me at all.

Nice try though.

Oh it looks like she does

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Avro Avro:

Or we could delve into the link between the Catholic church and Nazi Germany and the slaughter during the crusades.....it sure dosen't mean I hate most Cristians or most Muslims for that matter.

I don't like fundamentlist conservatives period.

Well I hope you don't have any hard feeling towards the Catholic church and the Christian Crusaders. I mean seriously, pull your head out of your ass. The Christian Crusaders where a 1000 years ago. (1095-1291)

WTF does the Christian Crusades have to do with today's day and age of Terrorism? "Islamic" Terrorists blowing up of the twin towers in NYC. These are not Christians committing these present day atrocities.

Islamic Terrorist killed 3000 innocent individuals, the same kind of "mentality" that believes that Christian and Jews are the enemy and should all me converted or killed.

Avro, I sincerely hope you do not have any children. If you do you should teach them the Koran, because in your little world, you will be reading and preaching to it soon enough.

[icekarma2752]

Avro...why do you stick up for these animals??

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BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Avro Avro:

It is also a thread to show who is intolerant to an entire culture, something you have never denied.

That's bigotry my friend and it won't heal the boo boo you suffered long ago, shame someone as smart as you let's personal feelings get in the way of pure sense, Hitler had the same problem.

It is not bigotry to dislike people who want to kill me and make my wife wear a burqa. That is common sense. Don't worry about common sense causing you any affrontery any time soon as I doubt you two will ever cross paths.

And I am PROUD of my intolerance.

Let me repeat that:

I am PROUD of my intolerance.

I am proud to say that I am intolerant of Nazis, Klansmen, Communists, fascists, dictators, wannabe-dictators, slavery, racists, murderers, child molesters, child abusers, panty-waisted liberal Nancy boys, anarchists, terrorists of any ideology, irresponsible corporations, irresponsible environmentalists, ignorant self-appointed authorities on *everything*, people who use cell phones in theatres, propagandists no matter what their association, anti-capitalists who fail to understand economics and human nature, apologists who relentlessly assail Western culture while defending whatever horror-of-the-week is fashionable, people who cut off other people in commute traffic, technical support centers in India, and clowns.

I will not negotiate away my rights. Not now, not ever. I am intolerant of people who want to violate, modify, abridge, restrict, or in any way infringe upon my rights or the rights of my fellow citizens.


I will not compromise my principles.

Compromise in the pursuit of pleasure is not a vice. Compromise in the defense of principle is not a virtue.

I am intolerant of people who lack principles and the resolve to act on what principles they may have.

So, yes, I am intolerant and I cannot think of any higher praise than to be accused of such a thing by someone like you.

Thank you.

Wow. That was quite a post. Bravo.

[Motorcycleboy]

xerxes xerxes:

That still has nothing to do with a change in naming trends in England.

Maybe after you're done tearing apart the straw man you made you could actually give something resembling an answer as to how a rise in people being named Mohammed has anything to do with anything.

That is, unless as I suspect, you have a serious problem with the people who call their children Mohammed in which case I would encourage you to go and rip on all the Latino's who call their children Jesus. Though, i suspect, you have a problem with their kind as well.

Sorry Xerxes, I didn't anticipate that you were going to be deliberately obtuse.

I'll spell out the problem for you.

As I said at the start of the thread, Mohammed is now the most popular baby boy name in a number of European nations. That indicates that there are now more Muslims than any other group being born into those countries.

I provided some other statistics that suggest the same thing.

Now, when that demographic reaches adulthood, and they start to form a majority, or even a hugely significant minority, what are the odds that they aren't going to start forming political parties that push a strictly Islamist agenda? I would say the odds are pretty good that they will.

Which brought me to my point. Why is it that it's invariably left wingers who apologize for every Muslim excess, and who still spout off the culturally relativist/multicult crap at every opportunity.

I would suggest that you guys have more to fear from an Islamist dominated parliament than people like me do.

[Brenda]

$1:

You hate all Muslims......ALL.

Euhhhm, where did he say that again???