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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:11 pm
 


I'd really appreciate some information about a 454 Chrysler Engine - its a 74, was parked for a little over 8 yrs. the gent got sick and is a parapalegic so he had to park it. (His winnebego)I bought it for the shell, I need it to roll down the highway and anything that won't hinder that function - can go.
Call it a woman thing, but can you offer info on what can be taken out, what can't and how much is an engine like that worth?
Anything would be very much appreciated!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:35 pm
 


I think it might be a Chevrolet engine.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:38 pm
 


1974
105 Horsepower..… 6-225 1 Barrel 3.40 x 4.12 225 8.4:1 105 @ 3600 180 @ 1600 45-65
150 Horsepower..… V8-318 2 Barrel 3.91 x 3.31 318 8.6:1 150 @ 4000 255 @ 2200 45-65
170 Horsepower..… V8-318 2 Barrel 3.91 x 3.31 318 8.6:1 170 @ 4000 265 @ 2600 45-65
180 Horsepower..… V8-360 2 Barrel 4.00 x 3.58 360 8.4:1 180 @ 4000 290 @ 2400 45-65
200 Horsepower..… V8-360 4 Barrel 4.00 x 3.58 360 8.4:1 200 @ 4000 290 @ 3200 45-65
245 Horsepower..… V8-360 4 Barrel 4.00 x 3.58 360 8.4:1 245 @ 4800 320 @ 3600 45-65
185 Horsepower..… V8-400 2 Barrel 4.34 x 3.38 400 8.2:1 185 @ 4000 315 @ 2400 45-65
205 Horsepower..… V8-400 4 Barrel 4.34 x 3.38 400 8.2:1 205 @ 4400 310 @ 2400 45-65
250 Horsepower..… V8-400 4 Barrel 4.34 x 3.38 400 8.2:1 250 @ 4800 330 @ 3400 45-65
230 Horsepower..… V8-440 4 Barrel 4.32 x 3.75 440 8.2:1 230 @ 3600 350 @ 3200 45-65
220 Horsepower..… V8-440 Calif. 4 Barrel 4.32 x 3.75 440 8.2:1 220 @ 3600 345 @ 3200 45-65
275 Horsepower..… V8-440 4 Barrel 4.32 x 3.75 440 8.2:1 275 @ 4400 375 @ 3200 45-65


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:01 pm
 


You might try this: Chevrolet Big-Block Engines


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:49 pm
 


If it's a big-block that can be rebuilt (no cracks, holes etc) it will likely bring a few bucks. How many will depend on the condition.

Your first step should be to find out exactly what it is. Chrysler made a 440, GM made a 454. There is a slight possibility that it's been bored out or had the crank changed for Winnebago duty though. That would change the displacement, making 454 Chrysler engine a possibility. I don't know whether anybody did that though...just a small possibility.

Your next step would be to get a mechanic to have a close look at it. Engines that sit tend to develop problems. Some can be fixed, others can't. You need to make sure the block isn't cracked and so on.

If it's okay, advertise it in the Buy and Sell or put up a notice at your local speed shop if they have a bulletin board for such things.

I've seen big block engines that needed to be rebuilt advertised for as much as $750, but I don't know if anybody actually got that much for them. My guess would be more along the lines of $300-$500.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:19 pm
 


Your in Alberta so a 454 core is worth $700 to an engine rebuilding company in either Edm or Calgary.

Find some one you know and trust to give it a once over and if it's serviceable (i.e. It'll run) then it's worth at least double that. It won't sit for long at that price.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:07 pm
 


454 Chevy is still a valuable engine. If it's from something big like a Winnebago then the engine may be a truck block, which has a slightly different deck angle. From what I can remember it may only make a difference with the intake gaskets sealing properly. Chances are slim that it is a truck block though. Either way it's a big block!!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:23 pm
 


GUYS!!
I thank you all so much!
Apparently this is a 440 - but I will know better later on tonite when one of my daughter's friends comes over to have a look!
It's still in the Winnebego, the winnebego is a 24' er - it's a big enough vehicule.
The engine definately runs, it took some precaution before we started it up as it hadn't been used in 9 years and had to be driven from a town to a village. I'll also check to see the mileage, I do know he didn't use it too often as he started to get sick not long after he bought it.
I called the previous owner to find out if I even have the year right - (ok - ok, it's a woman thing!) my paperwork is all packed to move.
You're all awesome - really! It's really appreciated!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:38 pm
 


Ooooh, a 440! Wonderful engines!

My mom had a 1969 Chrysler Town & Country wagon with the 440 'six-pack' (three in-line two-barrel carbs) and it smoked the hell out of everything! She used to get a gas out of having groceries and kids in the back and blowing away Mustangs at the light. :lol:

My suggestions for this would be:

If it doesn't need to be rebuilt I'd still put on an aluminum intake manifold, headers, and make sure you have at least a 600cfm carb on that bad boy or it'll suck too much gas and not enough air. Also, a Mallory Unilite distributor along with an MSD with the right carburetor will near to double your gas mileage.

All good stuff to check out. :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:50 pm
 


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Ooooh, a 440! Wonderful engines!

My mom had a 1969 Chrysler Town & Country wagon with the 440 'six-pack' (three in-line two-barrel carbs) and it smoked the hell out of everything! She used to get a gas out of having groceries and kids in the back and blowing away Mustangs at the light. :lol:

My suggestions for this would be:

If it doesn't need to be rebuilt I'd still put on an aluminum intake manifold, headers, and make sure you have at least a 600cfm carb on that bad boy or it'll suck too much gas and not enough air. Also, a Mallory Unilite distributor along with an MSD with the right carburetor will near to double your gas mileage.

All good stuff to check out. :wink:


Cam, you'll need a cam.

You forgot that! shame!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:54 pm
 


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454 Chevy is still a valuable engine. If it's from something big like a Winnebago then the engine may be a truck block, which has a slightly different deck angle. From what I can remember it may only make a difference with the intake gaskets sealing properly. Chances are slim that it is a truck block though. Either way it's a big block!!


It's a way valuable engine. They're buying those cores for $700 a shot straight out of wrecking yard junk. Double that if it's a runner. Rebuilt, those things start in around $2500 IIRC.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:08 pm
 


SprCForr SprCForr:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Ooooh, a 440! Wonderful engines!

My mom had a 1969 Chrysler Town & Country wagon with the 440 'six-pack' (three in-line two-barrel carbs) and it smoked the hell out of everything! She used to get a gas out of having groceries and kids in the back and blowing away Mustangs at the light. :lol:

My suggestions for this would be:

If it doesn't need to be rebuilt I'd still put on an aluminum intake manifold, headers, and make sure you have at least a 600cfm carb on that bad boy or it'll suck too much gas and not enough air. Also, a Mallory Unilite distributor along with an MSD with the right carburetor will near to double your gas mileage.

All good stuff to check out. :wink:


Cam, you'll need a cam.

You forgot that! shame!

:lol:


Naw, if you're going for mileage the stock cam is almost always perfect. If you're trying to burn 80 litres of petrol in one klick while striving for 0-250Kph in 12 seconds then, yes, you'll need a cam. :wink:

And a blower....

and nitrous....

and big ass tires....

a four bolt main....

and a couple of solid-fuel booster motors because even with all that you're still going to have fun getting a Winnebago down the strip in 12 seconds. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:58 pm
 


I'm taking notes and am off to see my daughter in a couple of hours - her guy should be there.
(i can't find the keys!!! it's been over a year i had to use them, they are in some box somewhere in the pile of packed boxes)
The winnebego shell has been sold, but the agreement was the engine and parts don't come with. The old boy that bought it has an engine heist and mega "stuff" - he's a collector of well, everything. So it'll make it easier for anyone who decides to buy it.
I'll include the tranny, starter and even drive shaft if needed.
(we're still short $3,000 for us to move, so whatever I can put a reasonable price to - goes!)

I'll get back later to post what kind of motor it is...
again, thanks!

(a Winnebego with nitrous - ROTFL )
Wouldn't that be something to see ripping down a highway!


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
SprCForr SprCForr:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Ooooh, a 440! Wonderful engines!

My mom had a 1969 Chrysler Town & Country wagon with the 440 'six-pack' (three in-line two-barrel carbs) and it smoked the hell out of everything! She used to get a gas out of having groceries and kids in the back and blowing away Mustangs at the light. :lol:

My suggestions for this would be:

If it doesn't need to be rebuilt I'd still put on an aluminum intake manifold, headers, and make sure you have at least a 600cfm carb on that bad boy or it'll suck too much gas and not enough air. Also, a Mallory Unilite distributor along with an MSD with the right carburetor will near to double your gas mileage.

All good stuff to check out. :wink:


Cam, you'll need a cam.

You forgot that! shame!

:lol:


Naw, if you're going for mileage the stock cam is almost always perfect. If you're trying to burn 80 litres of petrol in one klick while striving for 0-250Kph in 12 seconds then, yes, you'll need a cam. :wink:

And a blower....

and nitrous....

and big ass tires....

a four bolt main....

and a couple of solid-fuel booster motors because even with all that you're still going to have fun getting a Winnebago down the strip in 12 seconds. :lol:


Actually a good cam can increase your mileage. OEM is almost always a middle road compromise between economy and performance. It's a matter of profile and what you want it to do. A better breathing and exhaling engine will definately improve mileage.

Besides, to get a Winnebago to do 12's? Gut it first with a saw-z-all. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:16 pm
 


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...(a Winnebego with nitrous - ROTFL )
Wouldn't that be something to see ripping down a highway!


No duals, just big M/T baloney, wheelie wheels and a 'chute. Kool!

Something right out of the Barris garage or maybe Jesse's shop.

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