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Should Hitler's granchildren...
Be allowed to live in peace  29%  [ 4 ]
Be exterminated  7%  [ 1 ]
Be publicly humiliated  0%  [ 0 ]
Be entitled to the royalties from Opa's book  21%  [ 3 ]
Are you Hitler's grandchild?  43%  [ 6 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:26 pm
 


http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... love-child

Full title: New evidence boosts claim that Hitler had a secret French love child

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New evidence has emerged to support the disputed theory that Adolf Hitler had a secret son in 1918 after an affair with a teenage French mistress, a French newsmagazine reported Friday.

The man, Jean-Marie Loret, died in 1985 after an eventful life that saw him join the French Resistance and fight German forces led by the man who the evidence suggests was his father.

Loret claimed to be Hitler's son in an autobiography he published in 1981. The claim has been hotly debated by historians ever since, with the weight of opinion concluding that the story was bunk.

New evidence — which includes handwriting analysis, documents indicating Hitler secretly supported the woman financially and paintings signed "Adolf Hitler" discovered in her home — is outlined by Le Point magazine, whose report Friday was widely picked up in the French media but largely ignored by German news outlets.

The evidence comes from Loret's lawyer, Francois Gibault, who said Loret's children could use it to establish a claim to royalties from Hitler's manifesto, "Mein Kampf."

Loret's 30-year-old autobiography is also expected to be republished to include the new evidence.

Loret's mother, Charlotte Lobjoie, was 16 when Hitler, who was a corporal serving with German forces in France in World War I, supposedly had an affair with her while on leave in 1917.

Loret wrote that his mother told him that she was working in a hayfield in Fournes-en-Weppe with other young women when they spotted the young soldier drawing on a sketch pad across the street. She was chosen to go ask him what he was doing.

"He was attentive and friendly," she told her son, and that sparked a relationship that lasted several weeks.

Read the Le Point story (in French)

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One evening in June 1917, returning a little drunk from a night out with a friend, he [Hitler] got frisky with Charlotte. In March of the next year, a son was born. ...

Years passed, and Charlotte refused to talk about the mysterious circumstances of her son's birth. Destitute and vaguely shamed, she gave up custody of her son to another family in 1934.

His "real father" refused to see him but continued from time to seek to ask for news about him from his mother.

A few weeks before she died in the early '50s, Charlotte confessed to her son the true identity of her father. The shock was terrible.

In his 1981 book, "Your Father's Name Was Hitler," Loret wrote: "In order not to fall into anxiety, I worked tirelessly, never taking vacation — 20 years without going to a movie."

Le Point quoted Guibalt on Friday as saying that during the 1970s, however, Loret began seeking evidence of his parentage. He hired several experts: a historian, who visited his childhood home and questioned witnesses; a geneticist from the University of Heidelberg, who compared Hitler's and Loret's blood types; and a handwriting analyst, who compared their writings.

"All reached the same conclusion," Le Point reported. "Jean-Marie Loret was probably the son of Adolf Hitler."

See the handwriting comparison published by Le Point (.pdf)

"When he came to me in 1979, I had before me a lost man who did not know whether he wanted to be recognized as the son of Adolf Hitler," the magazine quoted Guibalt as saying.

"He experienced the feelings of many illegitimate children: the desire to discover his past, but also a fear of the old memories. I talked with him a lot, playing more the role of a psychologist than a lawyer," Guibalt said.

The magazine reported that the new evidence includes paintings signed "Adolf Hitler" — Hitler was a painter before going into politics — that were discovered in the attic of Lobjoie's home, as well as a Hitler-signed portrait of a woman believed to be Lobjoie that was discovered in Germany.

It also includes documents that Le Point said establish that officers of the Wehrmacht, the German armed forces, hand-delivered envelopes of cash to Lobjoie during the German occupation of France.

Loret, meanwhile, was with Resistance forces at the Maginot Line in 1939, Le Point reported, and in 1940, his unit fought a fierce battle against German troops in the Ardennes. During the German occupation, Loret worked as a Resistance spy under the name "Clement," it said.

Now, Gibault said, Loret's children could have a claim to royalties from "Mein Kampf," the philosophy of which Loret fought bitterly during World War II.


Hitler apparently has grandchildren.

That raises some novel questions right there.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:56 pm
 


New evidence boosts claim that Hitler had a secret child

Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it and his name is................................................ George Bush Jr. :roll:

I guess Dan Brown's got a whole new line of stories to write about.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:08 pm
 


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New evidence boosts claim that Hitler had a secret child

Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it and his name is................................................ George Bush Jr. :roll:

I guess Dan Brown's got a whole new line of stories to write about.


Bush was born long after Schickelgruber died.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:09 pm
 


I thought the poll question would be "Are you Hitler's grand child? Yes or No."
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:12 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
Freakinoldguy wrote:
New evidence boosts claim that Hitler had a secret child

Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it and his name is................................................ George Bush Jr. :roll:

I guess Dan Brown's got a whole new line of stories to write about.


Bush was born long after Schickelgruber died.


I know, but don't tell me go tell that to the Democrats who kept insinuating that GWB was really Hitlers spawn.

Maybe next time I'll put the "sarcasm off" thingy in my post.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:33 pm
 


Being Hitler's grandkids would be awesome and suck at the same time.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:39 pm
 


Proculation wrote:
I thought the poll question would be "Are you Hitler's grand child? Yes or No."
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Fixed. :P


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:02 pm
 


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Being Hitler's grandkids would be awesome and suck at the same time.



It'd pretty much eliminate Jerusalem as a holiday destination though. :D


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:16 pm
 


Freakinoldguy wrote:
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Being Hitler's grandkids would be awesome and suck at the same time.



It'd pretty much eliminate Jerusalem as a holiday destination though. :D

True, but he could rebuild the Berghof.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:32 pm
 


If this is true, I would actually like to see if his long lost heir would be willing to identify himself as such. I seriously doubt it.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:08 am
 


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paintings signed "Adolf Hitler" discovered in her home

Off topic but, I was at a Jewish country club for a wedding reception and there were paintings in the lobby done by Hermann Goering :? I thought, "Man, I've read a LOT of history about Hitler and his gang but I never knew Goering painted". :lol:

When I casually brought it up(not knowing yet it was a Jewish country club) I was informed what kind of place it was and it was NOT the same Hermann. Awkward :oops:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:33 am
 


I'm glad to see no one voted to punish injustice with injustice.


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paintings signed "Adolf Hitler" discovered in her home

Off topic but, I was at a Jewish country club for a wedding reception and there were paintings in the lobby done by Hermann Goering :? I thought, "Man, I've read a LOT of history about Hitler and his gang but I never knew Goering painted". :lol:

When I casually brought it up(not knowing yet it was a Jewish country club) I was informed what kind of place it was and it was NOT the same Hermann. Awkward :oops:

That Fat Slob Herman Goerings only hobby from what I understand was cocaine, opium and all that stuff.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:27 am
 


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I'm glad to see no one voted to punish injustice with injustice.

Why would anybody want to kill him? He is not his grand father. Granted he will not be invited to a State Visit in Israel and be given the keys to to the city of Jerusalem or Tel Aviv but why should that single him out for injustice.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:56 am
 


Crap........I thought it said Opra's book. :oops:
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