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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:06 am
 


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-bu ... 51761.html


Have you ever sat at a red light, watching the seconds tick by wondering if the light will ever turn?
Well, motorcyclists and bicycle riders in Illinois no longer have that problem. A new law now allows them to ride through red lights if the light doesn't turn green within a "reasonable period of time." But, according to the Chicago Daily Herald, not everyone thinks it's a good idea.
The law was changed because proponents said motorcycles and bicycles aren't heavy enough to activate the road sensors that make lights change.
Brian Wenholt, a legislative officer for Will County ABATE, said riders have wanted this law for a while.
"It's something I've been complaining about, and a lot of members have too, for years and years," he said to the Orland Park Patch. ABATE stands for A Brotherhood Aimed Toward Education and tries to "preserve the universal right to a safe, unrestricted motorcycling environment," reads their website.
Wenholt said the law is for motorcyclists to safely proceed when no traffic is present and he is working to educate members about the law.
Riders like Jeff Woolard, president of a local Harley owners club, support the law, but have issues with it. He told the Daily Herald waiting at lights has been a problem and that's why he's in favour of it, but he is concerned with the lack of specification on the amount of time people have to wait before moving forward.


Motorcyclists and bike riders must stop at the light, but can continue almost immediately making it more of a stop sign rather than a red light.
"The potential does exist to become confusing, not only for officers, but motorists as well," said Naperville police Sgt. Gregg Bell to the Daily Herald. "Motorists on the roadway must be self-conscious of what is going on around them as they go about their business, but more importantly, motorcyclists need to be extra careful when deciding to do this."
State Senator Susan Garrett, one of few senators to vote against the law, believes it will make roads more dangerous.
"It's giving a certain group of drivers a convenience that sets a new standard for how we use red lights," she told the Daily Herald. She also worries about who will be at fault if there is a crash.
The law, which has been effective since the beginning of the year, was pushed through by the House and Senate who overrode a veto by the governor. The governor was trying to include an amendment that would specify an amount of time riders must wait.
The law does not apply to Chicago.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:09 am
 


It is freaking ANNOYING to wait at a light, nothing is coming from any direction, and it has been red for ever...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:15 am
 


So go - I do.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:25 am
 


This is a good idea, but I wonder how many more traffic injuries and fatalities it will cause. Motorcyclists have it bad on most days and giving them license to burn red lights will only make it worse on them.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:26 am
 


Cool. We need more organ donors. Especially Illinois liberal Democrats. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:27 am
 


xerxes wrote:
This is a good idea, but I wonder how many more traffic injuries and fatalities it will cause. Motorcyclists have it bad on most days and giving them license to burn red lights will only make it worse on them.


Well, it will weed out the stupid ones, so it's not all bad.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:34 am
 


andyt wrote:
xerxes wrote:
This is a good idea, but I wonder how many more traffic injuries and fatalities it will cause. Motorcyclists have it bad on most days and giving them license to burn red lights will only make it worse on them.


Well, it will weed out the stupid ones, so it's not all bad.

I agree with that one


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:01 pm
 


At first I thought this was just stupid and dangerous but as a motorcycle rider who's been stuck at a set of lights because of the sensor......I can see it. Most times I've had to move up far enough so the car behind me can trigger the sensor. I believe they are electromagnetic sensors and not weight sensitive, so the size of the bike means nothing. Problem with that is that there's been times when I've moved up and the dolt behind me didn't clue in and just sat there. When alone at the lights when this has happened..........I've just had to finally go through the red.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:10 pm
 


Not a bad idea. It could cause some issues, but I don't think they'd be anything more than the "growing pains" that come with the change to any traffic regulation. For about 5 or 10 years there will either be people who don't know about the law, or outright don't use it properly. People will learn, and those who blatantly abuse the law will either pay with it with their wallets, or their lives.

Anyone old enough to remember the fuckery that the switch from MPH to KPH caused? I know I'm not, but I'd imagine it'd be something similar to that.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:22 pm
 


Tourists are going to have a field day with this...
If Illinois gets tourists.


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:lol:


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Canadian_Mind wrote:

Anyone old enough to remember the fuckery that the switch from MPH to KPH caused? I know I'm not, but I'd imagine it'd be something similar to that.

The fuckery I remember is how they nearly double the fine for speeding without a blink. At the time if a fine for going 10mph over the speed limit was $20, overnight it went to $20 for going 10kph over the speed limit........nearly doubling the cost. With the old speedometers 10kph (6.2mph) was just a smidge on the gauge.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:47 pm
 


All the chinese would be blinking, scratching their heads and saying loun' eye stop foh led right....why?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:28 pm
 


Regina wrote:
Canadian_Mind wrote:

Anyone old enough to remember the fuckery that the switch from MPH to KPH caused? I know I'm not, but I'd imagine it'd be something similar to that.

The fuckery I remember is how they nearly double the fine for speeding without a blink. At the time if a fine for going 10mph over the speed limit was $20, overnight it went to $20 for going 10kph over the speed limit........nearly doubling the cost. With the old speedometers 10kph (6.2mph) was just a smidge on the gauge.

Showing your age there, R :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:35 pm
 


Hey be polite and call him Mr. Regina.


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