[andyt]

What is it with these loser provinces that want to have independence? (Sort of)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le2302154/

Quote:

Scotland creeps toward a Quebec-style constitutional crisis

...Beneath this political brinkmanship are some harsh realities. If Scotland became independent tomorrow, it would immediately become one of the European leaders in homicides, hard-drug abuse, obesity, cancer deaths and alcoholism, and would have rates of poverty and chronic disease far higher than any of its neighbours.

In other words, Scotland is a very expensive place to administer. The British Treasury spends $16,000 a year on every Scottish man, woman and child, $2,500 more than it spends on their English neighbours; if Scotland’s share of tax revenue and expenditure are added up, an independent Scotland would wind up with a $23-billion annual deficit, or 13.4 per cent of GDP (or worse, if separation hurt that GDP).

Mr. Salmond says Scotland would gain control of the 81 per cent of North Sea oil in its territory, whose revenue could theoretically lower that deficit to a more manageable 6.8 per cent of GDP. But that doesn’t leave room for surprises – such as the billions Britain spent bailing out Scotland’s huge banks. And independence would make Scotland a single-resource nation that would be spending all its resource revenue within its own economy. This is not a recipe for prosperity....

[andyt]

stick it out until he gets to the bagpipes - hilarious.

[saturn_656]

Independence won't look so rosy once they figure out all the shit that England covered for them is going to have to be paid out of their own pockets.

What I find more than a little amusing is how on one hand the SNP squacks about independence from English rule, yet they also favour bringing an independent Scotland into the EU and handing over that hard won sovereignty to the Eurocrats in Brussels.

Make sense to you?

[andyt]

Quote:

During Wednesday’s Prime Minister’s Questions, Mr. Cameron imported another Canadian phrase, one that may come to describe the next decade of London-Edinburgh relations: Scottish nationalists, he said, want a “neverendum,” not a referendum.

[Brenda]

We've had (and probably still have) the bullshit of Friesland going independent from the rest of The Netherlands
Yeah, right

Same shit as Quebec (own language, too )

[Bruce_E_T]

saturn_656 wrote:

Make sense to you?

Only if the EU provides bigger handouts.

[Lemmy]

andyt wrote:

What is it with these loser provinces that want to have independence? (Sort of)

Go fuck yourself, andy.

[Proculation]

I don't know much about the scotland-ROE (rest of England ? ) harmony, but the point made about one being poorer and going to be poorer after separation is mostly the same. But from what I have read, it seems most Englishmen say to Scotland: go ahead, get lost! I don't think (I hope!) we are at that point here.

[Freakinoldguy]

Lemmy wrote:

andyt wrote:

What is it with these loser provinces that want to have independence? (Sort of)

Go fuck yourself, andy.

Don't worry Andy'll be the first one to shit himself when we declare Vancouver Island a Repulic.

Future pages of the Independent
Republic of Vancouver Island...
...and how we propose to get there!

1. Declare independence (when current BC government is in the middle of some major fiasco and the Bloq heads are bringing Canada to its knees federally) Our independence quest would be seen in comparison as a minor annoyance and would pass during a coffee break by the pages. (Pages get automatic citizenship)

2. Change laws to make it an international tax free haven. Hundreds of banks will setup headquarters here. This will bring thousands of jobs to the island. Caymans etc. need the competition.

3. Official citizenship only for those already living here on independence day. Others can buy it for a million bucks a pop - they also get a cool baseball cap!

4. Tourism becomes largest industry followed by forestry and fishing. Since there will be no customs or border between RVI & USA, the Americans think they are still in the US. They will spend more.

5. RVI applies for EU membership. Not really expecting to get it, but it will sure get the boys in Ottawa excited.

6. RVI declares itself a nuke free zone. No nukes here unless you are shooting them at us, in which case there is not much we can do about it, since we won't have an army or navy.

7. After considering turning the Navy into a new ferry system, we instead send them to Halifax. See point 8 for rationale.

8. Navy property gets turned into an ocean front international banking zone. No height restrictions on office buildings.

9. Legislative buildings turn into a 5 star hotel.

10. RVI permits private sector to build new dual ferry system. Passenger only hovercraft fleet and car ferry fleet.
Hovercraft can pull up to the parking lots making the trip from ship to your car painless.

11. RVI to adopt the flat tax system.

12. The Cormorant becomes our state bird. "Dive deep" becomes our motto.
We just don't tell it refers to what we do to tourists pockets.

13. The arbutus becomes our state tree.

14. Instead of sex, drugs & rock and roll, we promote "Hugs, afternoon tea & Mozart."

15. RVI makes the US dollar it's official currency, further spreading the illusion that this is America to our deep spending tourists from the south.

16. Going east means visiting the Gulf Islands. Going way east means going to Spuzzum, which would mean you are now beyond Hope.

17. Thousands of palm trees to be planted so that pictures of them can be taken in December and sent to the ROC (Rest of Canada) Oops, it's already been done!

[Gunnair]

Freakinoldguy wrote:

Lemmy wrote:

andyt wrote:

What is it with these loser provinces that want to have independence? (Sort of)

Go fuck yourself, andy.

Don't worry Andy'll be the first one to shit himself when we declare Vancouver Island a Repulic.

Future pages of the Independent
Republic of Vancouver Island...
...and how we propose to get there!

1. Declare independence (when current BC government is in the middle of some major fiasco and the Bloq heads are bringing Canada to its knees federally) Our independence quest would be seen in comparison as a minor annoyance and would pass during a coffee break by the pages. (Pages get automatic citizenship)

2. Change laws to make it an international tax free haven. Hundreds of banks will setup headquarters here. This will bring thousands of jobs to the island. Caymans etc. need the competition.

3. Official citizenship only for those already living here on independence day. Others can buy it for a million bucks a pop - they also get a cool baseball cap!

4. Tourism becomes largest industry followed by forestry and fishing. Since there will be no customs or border between RVI & USA, the Americans think they are still in the US. They will spend more.

5. RVI applies for EU membership. Not really expecting to get it, but it will sure get the boys in Ottawa excited.

6. RVI declares itself a nuke free zone. No nukes here unless you are shooting them at us, in which case there is not much we can do about it, since we won't have an army or navy.

7. After considering turning the Navy into a new ferry system, we instead send them to Halifax. See point 8 for rationale.

8. Navy property gets turned into an ocean front international banking zone. No height restrictions on office buildings.

9. Legislative buildings turn into a 5 star hotel.

10. RVI permits private sector to build new dual ferry system. Passenger only hovercraft fleet and car ferry fleet.
Hovercraft can pull up to the parking lots making the trip from ship to your car painless.

11. RVI to adopt the flat tax system.

12. The Cormorant becomes our state bird. "Dive deep" becomes our motto.
We just don't tell it refers to what we do to tourists pockets.

13. The arbutus becomes our state tree.

14. Instead of sex, drugs & rock and roll, we promote "Hugs, afternoon tea & Mozart."

15. RVI makes the US dollar it's official currency, further spreading the illusion that this is America to our deep spending tourists from the south.

16. Going east means visiting the Gulf Islands. Going way east means going to Spuzzum, which would mean you are now beyond Hope.

17. Thousands of palm trees to be planted so that pictures of them can be taken in December and sent to the ROC (Rest of Canada) Oops, it's already been done!

I agree with all save for the republIc. I'm inclined towards a feudal fiefdom with me installed as the very handsome and kilted potentate for life. I will, however appoint you as Lord High Rearest Admiral of the new BC Ferries, I mean Royal Victorian Navy. Yes, I will also rename my island to move away from the usurper of Vancouver.

[andyt]

With the NDP holding 10 of the 13 Vancouver Island ridings, it would be the Socialist Republic of Vancouver Island. Or just Vanilistan. (Vanil for Van Island or for all the vanilla people who live there.)

[Bruce_E_T]

andyt wrote:

With the NDP holding 10 of the 13 Vancouver Island ridings, it would be the Socialist Republic of Vancouver Island. Or just Vanilistan. (Vanil for Van Island or for all the vanilla people who live there.)

Hmmmm. 10 of 13 eh? Roughly the same ratio as in PQ. There might be something to this.

[Gunnair]

andyt wrote:

With the NDP holding 10 of the 13 Vancouver Island ridings, it would be the Socialist Republic of Vancouver Island. Or just Vanilistan. (Vanil for Van Island or for all the vanilla people who live there.)

Wrong. On my Island, the NDP get a one way ticket to Edmonton.

[ShepherdsDog]

vanilla, the world's most popular flavour.

[martin14]

Freakinoldguy wrote:

Lemmy wrote:

andyt wrote:

What is it with these loser provinces that want to have independence? (Sort of)

Go fuck yourself, andy.

Don't worry Andy'll be the first one to shit himself when we declare Vancouver Island a Repulic.

Future pages of the Independent
Republic of Vancouver Island...
...and how we propose to get there!

1. Declare independence (when current BC government is in the middle of some major fiasco and the Bloq heads are bringing Canada to its knees federally) Our independence quest would be seen in comparison as a minor annoyance and would pass during a coffee break by the pages. (Pages get automatic citizenship)

2. Change laws to make it an international tax free haven. Hundreds of banks will setup headquarters here. This will bring thousands of jobs to the island. Caymans etc. need the competition.

3. Official citizenship only for those already living here on independence day. Others can buy it for a million bucks a pop - they also get a cool baseball cap!

4. Tourism becomes largest industry followed by forestry and fishing. Since there will be no customs or border between RVI & USA, the Americans think they are still in the US. They will spend more.

5. RVI applies for EU membership. Not really expecting to get it, but it will sure get the boys in Ottawa excited.

6. RVI declares itself a nuke free zone. No nukes here unless you are shooting them at us, in which case there is not much we can do about it, since we won't have an army or navy.

7. After considering turning the Navy into a new ferry system, we instead send them to Halifax. See point 8 for rationale.

8. Navy property gets turned into an ocean front international banking zone. No height restrictions on office buildings.

9. Legislative buildings turn into a 5 star hotel.

10. RVI permits private sector to build new dual ferry system. Passenger only hovercraft fleet and car ferry fleet.
Hovercraft can pull up to the parking lots making the trip from ship to your car painless.

11. RVI to adopt the flat tax system.

12. The Cormorant becomes our state bird. "Dive deep" becomes our motto.
We just don't tell it refers to what we do to tourists pockets.

13. The arbutus becomes our state tree.

14. Instead of sex, drugs & rock and roll, we promote "Hugs, afternoon tea & Mozart."

15. RVI makes the US dollar it's official currency, further spreading the illusion that this is America to our deep spending tourists from the south.

16. Going east means visiting the Gulf Islands. Going way east means going to Spuzzum, which would mean you are now beyond Hope.

17. Thousands of palm trees to be planted so that pictures of them can be taken in December and sent to the ROC (Rest of Canada) Oops, it's already been done!

I agree with all except 14.

And we can keep the monarchy, except we jump ahead to Queen Kate