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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:42 am
 


I figure with Cannabis legalisation less than 12 hours away I'd start a thread about legal Cannabis.

So, once its legal is anyone going to give it a try?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:11 pm
 


Better question is: anyone on the board not tried it yet simply because it was illegal?
C'mon really. Almost everyone has already tried it. Now most of the ones who say they haven't can admit they did. And inhaled, too!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:16 pm
 


Edibles are a mental and emotional liberation. I can't smoke cigs so I won't smoke pot, lungs just can't hack it. Brownies and cookies though? wOOt! [cheer]

Probably keep getting them the usual way, i.e. pre-made. Too many scolds here at home who would go into mega-self-righteous mode if I cooked up a batch in the oven with them hanging around. Gonna stick with my regular supplier too, just to gyp the government on taxes. :twisted:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:21 pm
 


I used to lite up!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:41 pm
 


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Better question is: anyone on the board not tried it yet simply because it was illegal?
C'mon really. Almost everyone has already tried it. Now most of the ones who say they haven't can admit they did. And inhaled, too!


I've never done it, partly because of the illegal aspect, but mostly because smoking of any sorts triggers my allergies and I spend the next 24 hours with a killer migraine. I have been to parties where people smoked it, but I usually left because of my allergies and the stench of it.

I have no desire to try it (smoking or edibles) in the future.

I always supported legalization, if only for the taxation aspect (like sin taxes for booze), but I have to admit I'm leery after finding out how difficult enforcement of drugged driving will be. If anyone I know and love is ever killed by a high driver, they better not let me within arms reach of the POS...


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:45 pm
 


I may toke a bit more often. Or....I may buy a vape and be a vapey pot-smoking douche.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:51 pm
 


bootlegga wrote:
I always supported legalization, if only for the taxation aspect (like sin taxes for booze), but I have to admit I'm leery after finding out how difficult enforcement of drugged driving will be. If anyone I know and love is ever killed by a high driver, they better not let me within arms reach of the POS...


If you weren't concerned about it when it was illegal, and much harder to monitor and detect, why would you be more concerned now that it is legal, and the corporate producers are actively assisting LEO's in detection methods for their products?

LEO complaints are founded in funding, not in making society better.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:54 pm
 


herbie wrote:
Better question is: anyone on the board not tried it yet simply because it was illegal?
C'mon really. Almost everyone has already tried it. Now most of the ones who say they haven't can admit they did. And inhaled, too!

I haven't.


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bootlegga wrote:
I always supported legalization, if only for the taxation aspect (like sin taxes for booze), but I have to admit I'm leery after finding out how difficult enforcement of drugged driving will be. If anyone I know and love is ever killed by a high driver, they better not let me within arms reach of the POS...


If you weren't concerned about it when it was illegal, and much harder to monitor and detect, why would you be more concerned now that it is legal, and the corporate producers are actively assisting LEO's in detection methods for their products?

LEO complaints are founded in funding, not in making society better.


The reason I wasn't concerned before legalization is that I thought marijuana use was a relatively fringe thing - I literally do not know anyone who smokes MJ (or at least admits they do).

However as the conversation has grown over the past two years, I've come to realize it is as mainstream as a glass of wine/beer with dinner in many circles and that worries me. I guess it was a case of ignorance being bliss.

And when it was illegal, a blood test automatically determined someone was guilty because they had the presence of an illegal substance in their blood. Now, under legalization, people are allowed to have some in their blood and still be considered safe to drive.

Finally, unlike breathlyzers and alcohol, the Drager test sounds pretty flawed (high false-positives, fails in cold weather, etc.), and because of this, police forces are reluctant to invest in them. Alberta RCMP announced last week they will buy FOUR devices for the entire province!

My thoughts on legalization were always grounded on the enforcement of high drivers and based on what I've seen and read over the past six months, even with boatloads of money, effective enforcement would still be almost impossible.

All in all, I'm thinking legalization is not the panacea I thought it would be.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:26 pm
 


bootlegga wrote:
The reason I wasn't concerned before legalization is that I thought marijuana use was a relatively fringe thing - I literally do not know anyone who smokes MJ (or at least admits they do).

However as the conversation has grown over the past two years, I've come to realize it is as mainstream as a glass of wine/beer with dinner in many circles and that worries me. I guess it was a case of ignorance being bliss.

That's fair. Most, myself included, are pretty unaware of what goes on in a given scene, if we aren't part of said given scene.

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And when it was illegal, a blood test automatically determined someone was guilty because they had the presence of an illegal substance in their blood. Now, under legalization, people are allowed to have some in their blood and still be considered safe to drive.

Yes, a blood test did determine if a person was guilty. Not of operating a vehicle while impaired, as that had (and still has) a lower threshold limit, but you would be found guilty of something.
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Finally, unlike breathlyzers and alcohol, the Drager test sounds pretty flawed (high false-positives, fails in cold weather, etc.), and because of this, police forces are reluctant to invest in them. Alberta RCMP announced last week they will buy FOUR devices for the entire province!

Interestingly enough, this is were legalization will help! I know of two corporate producers that care currently working on terpene tracers. They will be easily tested for, and will not only tell you if a person has consumed, but how long ago...and which specific product you used (manufacturer, production line, product type, etc.)
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My thoughts on legalization were always grounded on the enforcement of high drivers and based on what I've seen and read over the past six months, even with boatloads of money, effective enforcement would still be almost impossible.

All in all, I'm thinking legalization is not the panacea I thought it would be.

Be patient, nothing changes immediately overnight, but legalization is the path to what you want. It is up to us (and who we vote for) to determine if that is the path we take. I would like to see us take this path (accountability and safety) personally, but I am well aware of many users that see this as the ultimate "DGAF" in terms of marijuana usage, and those people scare me.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:58 pm
 


If you legalized pot will you free everyone in jail for pot crimes?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:03 pm
 


MeganC wrote:
If you legalized pot will you free everyone in jail for pot crimes?



I doubt it, that is unless you're a terrorist or an illegal irregular immigrant.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:06 pm
 


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If you legalized pot will you free everyone in jail for pot crimes?

I think this would be covered by ex post facto law (Section 11(g)-Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms), so no, they would have to accept the charges and punishment administered by the laws at the time of their sentencing.

Going to be one heck of a legal grey area though, for those charged pre-legalization, but sentenced post legalization. Technically, it was illegal when the crime was committed, so I'm not sure which way the courts will go.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:10 pm
 


I'd imagine most people in prison for pot crimes would still be in prison for pot crimes even if it were legalized. I could be wrong, but I don't think we have many "possession" based charges in jail, and it's only for distribution. And unless they follow the rules of the government, still would be in violation of the law.


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