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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:50 pm
 


The following was sent to me via email and is posted around the net in various places.

I'm posting it as it addresses a phenomenon I've observed over the past year or so where every successive nutbag attack has been blamed on the right at the very outset. We saw the same thing with Boston when just an hour after the attack took place CNN's Wolf Blitzer was blaming the right.

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The Right’s Undeserved Stigma - The Left’s eagerness to pin violence on the Right is ridiculous.

By Jonah Goldberg


"If history were to repeat itself,” warned President Franklin D. Roosevelt in his 1944 State of the Union address, “and we were to return to the so-called ‘normalcy’ of the 1920s, then it is certain that even though we shall have conquered our enemies on the battlefields abroad, we shall have yielded to the spirit of fascism here at home.”

The “normalcy” of the 1920s that Roosevelt referred to was a time of peace and prosperity. The decade began with Republican president Warren Harding commuting the sentences of political prisoners jailed by the Wilson administration, including the socialist leader Eugene Debs. “Normalcy” meant the end to the Palmer raids aimed at rooting out dissidents, the end of economic rationing, the cessation of domestic surveillance and the state propaganda of the World War I years.

“A return to normalcy” was also Harding’s campaign slogan in the 1920 presidential election, which he won in a landslide over Democrat James Cox and his running mate — Franklin D. Roosevelt.

That Roosevelt nurtured resentments against the Republicans for the drubbing he received in 1920 is no surprise. That those resentments ran deep enough for him to smear Republicans in 1944 with the “spirit of fascism” at the height of the war against the real thing is nothing short of disgusting.

But it was effective.

Harry Truman recognized that when he ran for president against the liberal Republican Thomas Dewey in 1948. Truman charged that Dewey was the front man for the same sort of “powerful reactionary forces” that orchestrated the rise of Hitler in Germany.

When a communist assassinated President Kennedy, somehow the American Right got the blame. Lyndon Johnson translated that myth into a campaign of slander against Barry Goldwater, casting him as a crypto-Nazi emissary of “hate.”

After the Oklahoma City bombing, President Clinton saw fit to insinuate that Rush Limbaugh and his imitators were partly to blame.

Such partisanship is hardly reserved for partisans. The late Daniel Schorr, then of CBS News, reported that Goldwater’s planned European vacation was really a rendezvous with the German right in “Hitler’s one-time stomping ground.”

Schorr spent his golden years at NPR. No doubt he would have been pleased with the “reporting” of its counterterrorism correspondent, Dina Temple-Raston. Before the identities of the Boston bombers were confirmed, she said her sources were “leaning” toward believing that it was a homegrown “right-wing” attack, and cited that “April is a big month for anti-government and right-wing individuals.”

How so? Well, because April’s when the Oklahoma City bombing took place, as well as the Waco siege, the Columbine shootings and, how could one forget, Adolf Hitler’s birthday.

Over the last few years, the invariably unjustified rush to pin violence on the “right-wing” — particularly the tea partiers — has reached the point of parody. Remember when New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg speculated that the foiled Times Square bomber might just be angry about Obamacare?

As the Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein recently noted, among the myriad reasons conservatives take offense at this idiotic knee-jerk slander is that the term “right-wing” is routinely used to describe both terrorists and mainstream Republicans such as Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney. I can exclusively report that neither of them celebrates Hitler’s birthday.

Every Muslim terrorist enjoys not just the presumption of innocence until proven guilty but the presumption that he’s a fan of Ayn Rand, too.

Ah, but some would respond that “right-wing” is different than “Muslim” because there’s so much similarity between mainstream conservative ideology and the terror-filled creeds of the far right.

Except there isn’t. Timothy McVeigh, an atheist, wasn’t part of the conservative or libertarian movements. He wasn’t even part of the militia movement. And what on earth was right-wing about the Columbine shootings?

In plenty of cases of multiple killings, from the Unabomber to Christopher Dorner, the perpetrators espoused views closer to the mainstream left’s than McVeigh had to the mainstream right’s. Occupy Wall Street was an idealistic expression of democratic protest, but the tea partiers are brownshirts in khakis.

And, recall that Secretary of State John Kerry belonged to a group — Vietnam Veterans Against the War — that once discussed assassinating American politicians. Barack Obama was friendly with a convicted domestic terrorist. But to even bring these things up, never mind invest them with significance, is considered outrageous guilt by association.

And you know what? Maybe it is.

But if that is outrageous, what do you call the paranoid style of liberal politics that has confused normalcy with fascism for more than half a century?

— Jonah Goldberg is the author of The Tyranny of Clichés. You can write to him at goldbergcolumn@gmail.com, or via Twitter @JonahNRO. © 2013 Tribune Media Services, Inc.


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Actually, the reverse is true. And Goldberg being so desperate that he has to pull crap like "Tim McVeigh was actually an atheist left-wing Muslim" just shows how Orwellian-easy now is to turn all the true facts on their head in a bizarre reversal of reality, just to satisfy the needs of political partisanship. It's a genuine shame about what Goldberg's turned into over the years. When he started he was almost an intellectual heir to William F. Buckley, but he's descended so fast into such complete ad hominem silliness that he's barely at the level of a Tucker Carlson or one of Breitbart's orcs nowadays.

Here's a longish article that efficiently refutes and destroys every thing Goldberg says. The threat of right-wing domestic terrorism is a real and present danger in the United States today. Anyone who says otherwise is little better than a deliberate liar. There's really not much to say beyond this.


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We should probably just shut this thread down now and save ourselves a lot of trouble.


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DanSC wrote:
We should probably just shut this thread down now and save ourselves a lot of trouble.

Agreed...


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DanSC wrote:
We should probably just shut this thread down now and save ourselves a lot of trouble.
I'm with you!


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How bout them Leafs?


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How bout them Leafs?

Apparently in the playoffs! Damn

Only had to cut off the first half of the season for that to happen...


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:54 pm
 


QBC wrote:
DanSC wrote:
We should probably just shut this thread down now and save ourselves a lot of trouble.


No kidding.

Either that or we'll all have to make tinfoil hats.


It's not often we see the radical right in a group hug consoling themselves. :lol:


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Gunnair wrote:
QBC wrote:

No kidding.

Either that or we'll all have to make tinfoil hats.


It's not often we see the radical right in a group hug consoling themselves. :lol:


Yeah, it'll probably give many children bad dreams too.... PDT_Armataz_01_09

And this all coming from the guy who's posted more "out in left field" conspiracy theories than Jesse "The Body" Ventura.


ROTFL

That is the meanest mind worm ever! Every time Bart posts I'm going to think of the snippet where Jesse explains how he's a navy seal and the navy seals don't do nothing without a military purpose!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:14 pm
 


Perhaps if they were not brandishing guns in inappropriate settings and constantly implying violence, then maybe such ideas about Right involvement in acts of violence would not seem so outlandish?


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sandorski wrote:
Perhaps if they were not brandishing guns in inappropriate settings and constantly implying violence, then maybe such ideas about Right involvement in acts of violence would not seem so outlandish?

We're not going to lock down this thread if we engage in the pointless topic of comparing Tim McVeigh and FARC.


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sandorski wrote:
Perhaps if they were not brandishing guns in inappropriate settings and constantly implying violence, then maybe such ideas about Right involvement in acts of violence would not seem so outlandish?

Hmmmmm kind'a like Muslims? You know, cuz obviously from your post the actions of a few represents the views of the many.

The reality is, many of the serious nuts that are labelled as being on the "Right" are probably closer to being anarchists than anything else.


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Oooops, sorry, I thought it said stigmata.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:13 am
 


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The following was sent to me via email and is posted around the net in various places.

I'm posting it as it addresses a phenomenon I've observed over the past year or so where every successive nutbag attack has been blamed on the right at the very outset. We saw the same thing with Boston when just an hour after the attack took place CNN's Wolf Blitzer was blaming the right.

Given that American right wing terrorists have killed almost as many Americans since 9/11, I'd say the stigma is fully deserved.

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Militants linked to al Qaeda or inspired by jihadist ideology have carried out four terrorist attacks in the United States since September 11, which have resulted in 17 deaths. Thirteen of them were in a shooting incident at Fort Hood, Texas, in November 2009.

By contrast, right-wing extremists have committed at least eight lethal terrorist attacks in the United States that have resulted in the deaths of nine people since 9/11, according to data compiled by the New America Foundation.

And if, after investigation, Sunday's attack on the Sikh temple in Wisconsin is included in this count, the death toll from right-wing terrorism in the U.S. over the past decade rises to 15.

The shooting suspect, Wade Michael Page, posed with a Nazi flag on his Facebook page and has played a prominent role in "white power" music groups. The FBI is investigating the case as a "domestic terrorist-type incident."


http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/07/opini ... index.html

The point you are clearly missing is that terrorism comes from all sides, not just from leftists or Muslims.

I fully agree that jumping the gun and automatically assuming it was right wingers was wrong, but so too is the near automatic reflex of right wingers to assume every terror attack is done by Muslims.

It all boils down to, "If you live in a glass house, you shouldn't throw stones."


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