[BeaverFever]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Toronto is nice actually. Lots of green space, despite Rob Ford and other right wingers' attempts to turn it all into a giant strip mall. The real estate developers building today's condo towers have been accused of building tomorrow's ghettos. This problem is mostly caused by demand from property flippers and absentee landlords , many of whom live overseas and have never been to Toronto but nonetheless drive prices upward.

Beaver, take the blinders off.

All the condo's smattering the waterfront and downtown were started under the watchful eye of David Miller.

1) Not all, but many. These towers take many years to go from conception to construction so some are from the 1990's

2) More accurate: city council, where David Miller was mayor. The mayor isn't the king of the city, he's one man with one vote on council and condo projects are committee-driven. Miller was actually the one complaining abou tthe wall of ugly condos along Queen's Quay and IIRC he was the one who founded Waterfront Toronto to revitalize the area.

3) It's the Fords and right-wingers on council who are always complain about "urbanism" and "urban planning" as an impediment to business, They are the ones who always want less public oversight and intervention and push for vendors like Walmart and ferris wheels and casinos that blight the landscape, and complain that there are too many parks taking up valuable realestate that could be used for business.

[OnTheIce]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

3) It's the Fords and right-wingers on council who are always complain about "urbanism" and "urban planning" as an impediment to business, They are the ones who always want less public oversight and intervention and push for vendors like Walmart and ferris wheels and casinos that blight the landscape, and complain that there are too many parks taking up valuable realestate that could be used for business.

You're creative..I'll give you that.

I'm amazed that your partisanship forces you to make stuff up as you go.

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

2) More accurate: city council, where David Miller was mayor. The mayor isn't the king of the city, he's one man with one vote on council and condo projects are committee-driven. Miller was actually the one complaining abou tthe wall of ugly condos along Queen's Quay and IIRC he was the one who founded Waterfront Toronto to revitalize the area.

He complained so much, the area is completely saturated with condo's. Many under his watch.

[herbie]

440K... here it would buy you 30 townhouse units, enough change for a nice house. Or a motel and a house with lakeshore. A really nice lakeshore home with acreage. A 1/4 section of farm with nice house on it. A lakeshore home on an acre plus the owner's downtown restaurant.
Move away from the big cities. These little towns wouldn't be such shitholes and cities wouldn't be so pricey if people would spread out.
Bugged my cousins for years, why kill yourself with a cafe on Commercial Drive tring to sell cappucinos for a nickel less than the three other places on the block. There's a new university in Prince George without one (at the time) where you could sell them for $1.50 more and be full all day long.