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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:09 pm
 


ziggy ziggy:
Welcome to the WORLD wide web. :roll:

Okay, so exactly how was I supposed to know that the link was gay porn?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:10 pm
 


ziggy ziggy:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
ziggy ziggy:
Next you'll be bitching about the word "ass" in the www.

Cursing is not against the rules here. Posting links like that is.


Well,when you get a few more years under your belt it wont bother you so much.....sorry tricks

Should I contact a group discussion thing regarding "bad" links on the net and make you an appointment? Or will you get over it?

Thing is,you just want hwacker banned,just say it....quit dancing around useing the porn link thingy to try and get people on your side.

Newsflash for firecat-Hwacker isnt exactly well liked by lots here. :roll:
Not like you need to elicit support but it's fun watching you try.
How's that saying go? I may not like what you say but will defend you to the death to say it? Thats the redneck version,you get the drift Im sure.


I don't give a crap who's liked and who isn't around here. I want to know what kind of ethos exists here. hwacker has been a member for a long time. I have not. I'm still learning the dynamics. This little brouhaha offers a lot of insight into the site, its rules, how the rules are considered and how they are enforced.

My objection and that of Mr. Canada is solely based in the published rules that we signed up under. The chorus of complaint directed at us evidences we've stepped into a highly polarized camp where the longer-established members deride not only the rules but us for anticipating compliance.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:11 pm
 


Scrappy Scrappy:
Tricks wrote: Fuck you.

Well well how adult of you, I don't mind you or other youths on this forum Tricks in fact you are one cool young man/woman. My point is if a minor is posting here it's not the forums responsibility to Parent you it is the Parents job not the forum owner.
Yeah...Sorry about that. I just don't like it when people think just because age isn't higher then 18 you need to be put in a youth section. Get's me pissed off ;) I agree with what you said though. It isn't Trevor's responsibility, it is the parents, or the kid to show some discretion.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:11 pm
 


ziggy ziggy:
Mr Canada Mr Canada:
YES. For Posting the link!

At least punushed, actually.


Sounds like someone got dissed or even owned to put so much effort into a banning. :o

funny. :wink:

Again, would you be so protective if it was me who posted the link? Would you be screaming "Freedom of Speech" and "Bloody Children"?

I bet not.


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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
ziggy ziggy:
Firecat Firecat:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Firecat Firecat:
If you review you will see I have never advocated any censorship at all. I have objected to nothing anyone has said, only this violation of rule 2 about posting porn on a "family friendly" site.


How can a site that allows sexually explicit avatars, maintains a database of adult oriented imagery and permits for profit links to adult theme sites be expected to enforce such a rule with appearing hypocritical? Regardless, the rules are strictly for guidance rather than anything absolute as witnessed by historical suspensions or lack thereof. Additionally, there is no indication that the photographs are illegal.

Further.....asking for someone to be suspended or banned IS advocating censorship. It is disturbing that you cannot see the parallel.

Firecat Firecat:
I cannot presume to know how often the poster has violated this rule or others, so I am unable to suggest which is the appropriate sanction. If he does this often then, yes the rules say he should be banned. Please don't misrepresent me as calling for his ban because he said something I didn't like. the rules and spelled out and the appropriate sanctions. I have merely called attention to them. Which sanction applies is not for me to decide.


First, you admitted to calling for the ban before knowing what the rules in fact stated. Secondly, pushing the issue every forth sentence then shrugging your metaphorical shoulders that its 'really up to the moderators' is nothing more then a subtle form of manipulation targeting moderators and sympathisers alike.

Firecat Firecat:
I have taken great pains to clearly state this about forum posting rules not about viewpoints, so it is only your choice to portray this as attempting to silence a voice.


I calls em like I sees um. If you were not advocating censorship then you would have taken hwacker to task over the content instead of pushing this as a suspension issue. In spite of your pain, I reiterate: Any form of censorship of imagery, words, thought or expression has no business in Canadian cyperspace.


I didn't write the rules. If you have a problem with the rule about allowing porn then take it up with the site.

I vetted the rules csrefully on many sites before I chose to join this one. I chose it as being a set of rules I considered reasonable and I can live with.

If you feel they are not reasonable then why are you here demanding the right of "free speech?" The site is canadaka.net and they set forth a bunch of rules. Why not set up a GFPB site where free speech includes gay porn disguised as political links?

It is the rules that specified ban or "jail" I don't know the history of the dude but I think that posting a "blind" porm link is such a bone-headed and rude thing to do he is quite beneath contempt.

trying to defend this as "freedom of speech" is misapplying the concept. Nothing is being said or advocated here. This is inappropriate depictions of explicit sexuality on a "family friendly" forum. Give me a single quote from the rules that support your position and I will gladly offer my apologies to the hwacker for calling for his sanction. One could hardly defend waving gay porn magazines around in a public place as "freedom of speech" now can one?


Oh cmon now,just say it
Firecat and mr canada want Hwacker banned!

Quit dancing around and just say it. :o

YES. For Posting the link!

At least punushed, actually.

Now how about you admit it? He deserves to be punishd! He broke the rules and should be punished.

I'm sure you wouldn't be all protective if it was me who posted the link, ;)
We all break the rules, and this isn't the first time Hwacker has done this. He sent me a pm with some fucked up links to make fun of someone. Did I cry about it? No, so suck it up princess.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:14 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
ziggy ziggy:
Firecat Firecat:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Firecat Firecat:
If you review you will see I have never advocated any censorship at all. I have objected to nothing anyone has said, only this violation of rule 2 about posting porn on a "family friendly" site.


How can a site that allows sexually explicit avatars, maintains a database of adult oriented imagery and permits for profit links to adult theme sites be expected to enforce such a rule with appearing hypocritical? Regardless, the rules are strictly for guidance rather than anything absolute as witnessed by historical suspensions or lack thereof. Additionally, there is no indication that the photographs are illegal.

Further.....asking for someone to be suspended or banned IS advocating censorship. It is disturbing that you cannot see the parallel.

Firecat Firecat:
I cannot presume to know how often the poster has violated this rule or others, so I am unable to suggest which is the appropriate sanction. If he does this often then, yes the rules say he should be banned. Please don't misrepresent me as calling for his ban because he said something I didn't like. the rules and spelled out and the appropriate sanctions. I have merely called attention to them. Which sanction applies is not for me to decide.


First, you admitted to calling for the ban before knowing what the rules in fact stated. Secondly, pushing the issue every forth sentence then shrugging your metaphorical shoulders that its 'really up to the moderators' is nothing more then a subtle form of manipulation targeting moderators and sympathisers alike.

Firecat Firecat:
I have taken great pains to clearly state this about forum posting rules not about viewpoints, so it is only your choice to portray this as attempting to silence a voice.


I calls em like I sees um. If you were not advocating censorship then you would have taken hwacker to task over the content instead of pushing this as a suspension issue. In spite of your pain, I reiterate: Any form of censorship of imagery, words, thought or expression has no business in Canadian cyperspace.


I didn't write the rules. If you have a problem with the rule about allowing porn then take it up with the site.

I vetted the rules csrefully on many sites before I chose to join this one. I chose it as being a set of rules I considered reasonable and I can live with.

If you feel they are not reasonable then why are you here demanding the right of "free speech?" The site is canadaka.net and they set forth a bunch of rules. Why not set up a GFPB site where free speech includes gay porn disguised as political links?

It is the rules that specified ban or "jail" I don't know the history of the dude but I think that posting a "blind" porm link is such a bone-headed and rude thing to do he is quite beneath contempt.

trying to defend this as "freedom of speech" is misapplying the concept. Nothing is being said or advocated here. This is inappropriate depictions of explicit sexuality on a "family friendly" forum. Give me a single quote from the rules that support your position and I will gladly offer my apologies to the hwacker for calling for his sanction. One could hardly defend waving gay porn magazines around in a public place as "freedom of speech" now can one?


Oh cmon now,just say it
Firecat and mr canada want Hwacker banned!

Quit dancing around and just say it. :o

YES. For Posting the link!

At least punushed, actually.

Now how about you admit it? He deserves to be punishd! He broke the rules and should be punished.

I'm sure you wouldn't be all protective if it was me who posted the link, ;)
We all break the rules, and this isn't the first time Hwacker has done this. He sent me a pm with some fucked up links to make fun of someone. Did I cry about it? No, so suck it up princess.

Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.





PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:15 pm
 


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I'm sure you wouldn't be all protective if it was me who posted the link,


Actually,I wouldnt give a shite. They dont call it the world wide web for nothing,you could be some 500 pound guy or gal sitting in front of the pc banging down bon bons and surfing porn for all I know. As for hwacker? Like I give a shit about him. You on the other hand seem to have an infatuation with him. funny


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:17 pm
 


ziggy ziggy:
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I'm sure you wouldn't be all protective if it was me who posted the link,


Actually,I wouldnt give a shite. They dont call it the world wide web for nothing,you could be some 500 pound guy or gal sitting in front of the pc banging down bon bons and surfing porn for all I know. As for hwacker? Like I give a shit about him. You on the other hand seem to have an infatuation with him. funny

Hey, I'd be doing this if it where you or whoever.

I think that rules are meant to be followed, not broken. ;)


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:17 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:19 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:21 pm
 


Scrappy Scrappy:
Tricks wrote: Fuck you.

Well well how adult of you, I don't mind you or other youths on this forum Tricks in fact you are one cool young man/woman. My point is if a minor is posting here it's not the forums responsibility to Parent you it is the Parents job not the forum owner.

Second, regarding Porn links, the 99 percent naked woman are not at all a pleasure for me to view so I ignore them if I can, I don't usually judge others and their sexual appitites. I didn't view the link so I don't know how offensive it was, or if it was offensive.

Firecat, for a newbie you spend a great deal of time telling everyone what the rules are and your interpretations of them and I find this annoying. I don't need a nanny, or a forum policeman, self appointed, to lecture me. Perhaps you should take your "Issues" to the PM stage and spare the rest of us your lectures on what is morally right or wrong.


This has been the first time I've cited the rules, because t is the issue at hand.

Show me even one other occasion when I have objected to ANYTHING anyone has posted before this.





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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
ziggy ziggy:
Mr Canada Mr Canada:
YES. For Posting the link!

At least punushed, actually.


Sounds like someone got dissed or even owned to put so much effort into a banning. :o

funny. :wink:

Again, would you be so protective if it was me who posted the link? Would you be screaming "Freedom of Speech" and "Bloody Children"?

I bet not.


Bloody children?

Freedom of speech?

$1:
Again, would you be so protective if it was me who posted the link?

I cant say....are you planning on posting one?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:23 pm
 


Firecat Firecat:
I didn't write the rules. If you have a problem with the rule about allowing porn then take it up with the site.


What rule about allowing porn are you talking about? And I should remind you that your problem is with porn and mine is with censorship.

Firecat Firecat:
I vetted the rules csrefully on many sites before I chose to join this one. I chose it as being a set of rules I considered reasonable and I can live with.


Ohh Ohh (*hand in the air*)....I call BS. The rules of conduct are virtually indistinguishable from site to site. BTW, you also stated you didn't know the rules here. (Two BS kills with one shot., sweet.)

Firecat Firecat:
If you feel they are not reasonable then why are you here demanding the right of "free speech?" The site is canadaka.net and they set forth a bunch of rules. Why not set up a GFPB site where free speech includes gay porn disguised as political links?


Ha Ha. Listen, amplify your disgust over the picture tenfold and that is how I feel about homosexuality in general. But just because I don't like it, even vehemently in opposition, does not mean I will not defend the right for it to exist or be expressed. Please try to distinguish between the two. I place freedom of speech and expression as the most sacred ideology in Canada. It must be defend at every turn.

Firecat Firecat:
It is the rules that specified ban or "jail" I don't know the history of the dude but I think that posting a "blind" porm link is such a bone-headed and rude thing to do he is quite beneath contempt.


Again I will point out that you advocated a ban then acknowledged that you did not know the rules. As for the last part of your statement I believe that is the first time you have tried to actually take him to task.

Firecat Firecat:
trying to defend this as "freedom of speech" is misapplying the concept. Nothing is being said or advocated here. This is inappropriate depictions of explicit sexuality on a "family friendly" forum. Give me a single quote from the rules that support your position and I will gladly offer my apologies to the hwacker for calling for his sanction. One could hardly defend waving gay porn magazines around in a public place as "freedom of speech" now can one?


Touche…first line of rules reads;

1. Comments directed as an insult due to ones race, religion, mental/physical status, sexual preference, political beliefs, and ethnic background are not tolerated and will result in punishment in three levels with stricter penalties in each.

First Act: The post will be edited removing controversial content. Culprit will receive one written warning, and will also be notified to all moderators. If the act is directed personally to another member of the forum, the culprit will be asked to apologize in write to that party or receive a 1 week suspension.

You have made several comments alluding to both I and ziggy having a penchant for gay porn. Lets see if the rules apply to you hmmm?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:24 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:24 pm
 


ziggy ziggy:
Bloody children?

Freedom of speech?

:|

$1:
I cant say....are you planning on posting one?

No. I was speaking figuritively.


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