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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:25 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
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Firecat Firecat:
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Firecat Firecat:
If you review you will see I have never advocated any censorship at all. I have objected to nothing anyone has said, only this violation of rule 2 about posting porn on a "family friendly" site.


How can a site that allows sexually explicit avatars, maintains a database of adult oriented imagery and permits for profit links to adult theme sites be expected to enforce such a rule with appearing hypocritical? Regardless, the rules are strictly for guidance rather than anything absolute as witnessed by historical suspensions or lack thereof. Additionally, there is no indication that the photographs are illegal.

Further.....asking for someone to be suspended or banned IS advocating censorship. It is disturbing that you cannot see the parallel.

Firecat Firecat:
I cannot presume to know how often the poster has violated this rule or others, so I am unable to suggest which is the appropriate sanction. If he does this often then, yes the rules say he should be banned. Please don't misrepresent me as calling for his ban because he said something I didn't like. the rules and spelled out and the appropriate sanctions. I have merely called attention to them. Which sanction applies is not for me to decide.


First, you admitted to calling for the ban before knowing what the rules in fact stated. Secondly, pushing the issue every forth sentence then shrugging your metaphorical shoulders that its 'really up to the moderators' is nothing more then a subtle form of manipulation targeting moderators and sympathisers alike.

Firecat Firecat:
I have taken great pains to clearly state this about forum posting rules not about viewpoints, so it is only your choice to portray this as attempting to silence a voice.


I calls em like I sees um. If you were not advocating censorship then you would have taken hwacker to task over the content instead of pushing this as a suspension issue. In spite of your pain, I reiterate: Any form of censorship of imagery, words, thought or expression has no business in Canadian cyperspace.


I didn't write the rules. If you have a problem with the rule about allowing porn then take it up with the site.

I vetted the rules csrefully on many sites before I chose to join this one. I chose it as being a set of rules I considered reasonable and I can live with.

If you feel they are not reasonable then why are you here demanding the right of "free speech?" The site is canadaka.net and they set forth a bunch of rules. Why not set up a GFPB site where free speech includes gay porn disguised as political links?

It is the rules that specified ban or "jail" I don't know the history of the dude but I think that posting a "blind" porm link is such a bone-headed and rude thing to do he is quite beneath contempt.

trying to defend this as "freedom of speech" is misapplying the concept. Nothing is being said or advocated here. This is inappropriate depictions of explicit sexuality on a "family friendly" forum. Give me a single quote from the rules that support your position and I will gladly offer my apologies to the hwacker for calling for his sanction. One could hardly defend waving gay porn magazines around in a public place as "freedom of speech" now can one?


Oh cmon now,just say it
Firecat and mr canada want Hwacker banned!

Quit dancing around and just say it. :o

YES. For Posting the link!

At least punushed, actually.

Now how about you admit it? He deserves to be punishd! He broke the rules and should be punished.

I'm sure you wouldn't be all protective if it was me who posted the link, ;)
We all break the rules, and this isn't the first time Hwacker has done this. He sent me a pm with some fucked up links to make fun of someone. Did I cry about it? No, so suck it up princess.

Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.


Apparently so. Thanks for informing us that this is not the first time hwacker has done this.
I believe that completes the case for him being permanently banned for violating the posting rules.

Thank you for your testimony. the witness may step down.

M'lud, the Crown rests its case.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:26 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?


Last edited by Mr_Canada old on Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.




PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:29 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?


2dudes? Just how much time did you spend on that link anyways????? hmmmm?

So isnt there a little button you have to click on when registering that says your over 18?

Cant bring up the FAQ's


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:31 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is?


Once you are a senior member you are free to post blind porn links with impunity, as well as (I infer from a post above) send abusive PMs.

Interestingly it asn't a noob that posted the offensive link, but one of the "senior members"

You must all be very proud.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:32 pm
 


Firecat Firecat:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
ziggy ziggy:
Firecat Firecat:
grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Firecat Firecat:
If you review you will see I have never advocated any censorship at all. I have objected to nothing anyone has said, only this violation of rule 2 about posting porn on a "family friendly" site.


How can a site that allows sexually explicit avatars, maintains a database of adult oriented imagery and permits for profit links to adult theme sites be expected to enforce such a rule with appearing hypocritical? Regardless, the rules are strictly for guidance rather than anything absolute as witnessed by historical suspensions or lack thereof. Additionally, there is no indication that the photographs are illegal.

Further.....asking for someone to be suspended or banned IS advocating censorship. It is disturbing that you cannot see the parallel.

Firecat Firecat:
I cannot presume to know how often the poster has violated this rule or others, so I am unable to suggest which is the appropriate sanction. If he does this often then, yes the rules say he should be banned. Please don't misrepresent me as calling for his ban because he said something I didn't like. the rules and spelled out and the appropriate sanctions. I have merely called attention to them. Which sanction applies is not for me to decide.


First, you admitted to calling for the ban before knowing what the rules in fact stated. Secondly, pushing the issue every forth sentence then shrugging your metaphorical shoulders that its 'really up to the moderators' is nothing more then a subtle form of manipulation targeting moderators and sympathisers alike.

Firecat Firecat:
I have taken great pains to clearly state this about forum posting rules not about viewpoints, so it is only your choice to portray this as attempting to silence a voice.


I calls em like I sees um. If you were not advocating censorship then you would have taken hwacker to task over the content instead of pushing this as a suspension issue. In spite of your pain, I reiterate: Any form of censorship of imagery, words, thought or expression has no business in Canadian cyperspace.


I didn't write the rules. If you have a problem with the rule about allowing porn then take it up with the site.

I vetted the rules csrefully on many sites before I chose to join this one. I chose it as being a set of rules I considered reasonable and I can live with.

If you feel they are not reasonable then why are you here demanding the right of "free speech?" The site is canadaka.net and they set forth a bunch of rules. Why not set up a GFPB site where free speech includes gay porn disguised as political links?

It is the rules that specified ban or "jail" I don't know the history of the dude but I think that posting a "blind" porm link is such a bone-headed and rude thing to do he is quite beneath contempt.

trying to defend this as "freedom of speech" is misapplying the concept. Nothing is being said or advocated here. This is inappropriate depictions of explicit sexuality on a "family friendly" forum. Give me a single quote from the rules that support your position and I will gladly offer my apologies to the hwacker for calling for his sanction. One could hardly defend waving gay porn magazines around in a public place as "freedom of speech" now can one?


Oh cmon now,just say it
Firecat and mr canada want Hwacker banned!

Quit dancing around and just say it. :o

YES. For Posting the link!

At least punushed, actually.

Now how about you admit it? He deserves to be punishd! He broke the rules and should be punished.

I'm sure you wouldn't be all protective if it was me who posted the link, ;)
We all break the rules, and this isn't the first time Hwacker has done this. He sent me a pm with some fucked up links to make fun of someone. Did I cry about it? No, so suck it up princess.

Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.


Apparently so. Thanks for informing us that this is not the first time hwacker has done this.
I believe that completes the case for him being permanently banned for violating the posting rules.

Thank you for your testimony. the witness may step down.

M'lud, the Crown rests its case.
Witness requests to speack on his own behalf.

The witness was not personally offended and was the only one who saw this particular PM, and think that since no harm was done that this should not be counted against Hwacker in any way, shape, or form.

(SUCK ON THAT ONE!!)


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:33 pm
 


ziggy ziggy:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?


2dudes? Just how much time did you spend on that link anyways????? hmmmm?

So isnt there a little button you have to click on when registering that says your over 18?

Cant bring up the FAQ's

Their was no warning, nothing. It immedietly showed me pictures of gay interaction. Nothing warning me that I was entering an adult oriented website.

And how long does it take you to look at a picture and see what's happening?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:33 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?
Yeah, I would say that's all that is. I bet if there was a link of two chicks in sexual activity there would not be huge amounts of objections no?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:35 pm
 


Firecat Firecat:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is?


Once you are a senior member you are free to post blind porn links with impunity, as well as (I infer from a post above) send abusive PMs.

Interestingly it asn't a noob that posted the offensive link, but one of the "senior members"

You must all be very proud.
Quite actually. I don't think too many other people would freak out about this. Why are you?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:35 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?


In Canada sex between men is neither illegal in practice or imagery.





PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:36 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?
Yeah, I would say that's all that is. I bet if there was a link of two chicks in sexual activity there would not be huge amounts of objections no?


Mr. Canada would prolly be on it like a dog on a football. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:36 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?
Yeah, I would say that's all that is. I bet if there was a link of two chicks in sexual activity there would not be huge amounts of objections no?

.... Okay.

*cough* Fine you win there.

I'm sure firecat would though. She actually has kids and something to worry about, ;)

Technically, it would still be inappropriate. I just probably wouldn't be prostesting. ;)


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:38 pm
 


grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?


In Canada sex between men is neither illegal in practice or imagery.

Who said it was? Who said it should be?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:39 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?
Yeah, I would say that's all that is. I bet if there was a link of two chicks in sexual activity there would not be huge amounts of objections no?

.... Okay.

*cough* Fine you win there.

I'm sure firecat would though. She actually has kids and something to worry about, ;)

Technically, it would still be inappropriate. I just probably wouldn't be prostesting. ;)
Exactly! It's because it is two guys. So now that you have clearly said someone should be banned for posting something gay, you are bigot in some people's eyes. OOOO I am fucking good! *Patiently waits for SireJoe*


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:39 pm
 


ziggy ziggy:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?


2dudes? Just how much time did you spend on that link anyways????? hmmmm?

So isnt there a little button you have to click on when registering that says your over 18?

Cant bring up the FAQ's


No, there isn't. If there were I wouldn't have had an issue with this.
And now you're accusing a 14 year old male of staying on that site when he unsuspectingly clicked on a link labelled "here". Do you not understand how offensive that is to him? no, apparently not. First he's tricked into visiting a gay porn site then razzed for recognizing it as such. That is mortifying for a teen. Well maybe I'm overstating it but I wouldn't have liked it either.

Mr. Canada's not being the arsehole here and it ain't the Firecat either.





PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:41 pm
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Tricks Tricks:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Sorry for wishing the rules be followed.

It's so offencive to do that around here.
Blast you and your rule following. These are guidlines. I bet nearly every single one of those rules has been broken over time with no punishment. Who cares? We are all, for the most part, smart people here. Laugh it off and get over it.

Why have the guidelines then...?
To try and keep noobs in line. Generally, once you have become a senior member, you get some give, but will still be punished if you go way over the line.

And pictures of two dudes fucking each other in the ass isn't over the line...

What is? Something illegal?
Yeah, I would say that's all that is. I bet if there was a link of two chicks in sexual activity there would not be huge amounts of objections no?

.... Okay.

*cough* Fine you win there.

I'm sure firecat would though. She actually has kids and something to worry about, ;)

Technically, it would still be inappropriate. I just probably wouldn't be prostesting. ;)


And the *cough cough* sigs of allmost bare breasts that some members seems to have slipped your puritanical grasp,same with firecat....are you 2 blind or what?

Some sexually explicit avatars also,why the silence untill now?


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