[novachick]

[ShepherdsDog]

So...you're saying that those who teach, aren't doing anything productive. Before you can do, you need to be taught.

[Red_Eye]

No that would be generalizing like i just did. Tho it does stick out to some degree from what I saw, especially in my field. Those I learnt from the most taught by example, those that tried to teach were more like back seat drivers. Easily to critisize but had difficulty to produce the same quality.

[clubJWP]

true its easy to criticize, by looking from an outsiders perspective

JWP

[Wally_Sconce]

novachick wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Red_Eye wrote:

Education doesn't equal intelligence

not always, but you generally have to fairly intelligent to acheive higher levels of education. But conversely, the highly intelligent aren't always productive members of society.

We have a saying in Nova Scotia...book smart,reality stupid

I know what you are saying.

I've used the phrase "a whole lot of education, but not a lot of common sense"

[Wally_Sconce]

novachick wrote:

You think it's an easy degree I dare you to take it.

Oh I agree. When I was in College the 2 year nursing program had a reputation for being the toughest dimploma program.

Quote:

Obviously you don't know the difference between a Doctor and a nurse. The doctors take the glory role. The nurses do all the actual work and show the doctor whats needed
to perform theirs.

http://nursing.dal.ca/

No, thats pretty much what I suspected. There's an expression "The boss does the thinking, and I do everything else". I would guess that applies to nurses.

What I don't understand is how a person can learn nursing to a phD level.

We dont have phDs for trades, technicians or technologists. What makes the nurses so special?

[ShepherdsDog]

Technician is the key phrase. However, tradesman do have master level, as my brother in law has his Master Tradesman in Mechanics. The ranks/titles come from a system established in the middle ages. Nurses have different levels based on their education levels. An LPN is a diploma program, like the longer RN program. The BSc(RN) is a four year program and it progresses from there. Once upon a time teachers only had to complete a couple of years at a teaching college. My B.Ed for teaching high school was a five year program that I completed in four(course overloads), but now all teachers, elementary and highschool have to complete a 5 year degree. I also have a four year BSc in Engineering and while technologists are quite informed, they require the supervision of a qualified engineer in certain matters. The system is similar to an NCO and an officer.

[Wally_Sconce]

BS - bullshit degree
MS - more of the same
phD - piled higher and deeper

[Wally_Sconce]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Technician is the key phrase. However, tradesman do have master level, as my brother in law has his Master Tradesman in Mechanics. The ranks/titles come from a system established in the middle ages. Nurses have different levels based on their education levels. An LPN is a diploma program, like the longer RN program. The BSc(RN) is a four year program and it progresses from there. Once upon a time teachers only had to complete a couple of years at a teaching college. My B.Ed for teaching high school was a five year program that I completed in four(course overloads), but now all teachers, elementary and highschool have to complete a 5 year degree. I also have a four year BSc in Engineering and while technologists are quite informed, they require the supervision of a qualified engineer in certain matters. The system is similar to an NCO and an officer.

I'm a technologist. i've trained many of the engineers that move on to become my boss. When they first come out of school they are dumber than a sack of hammers.

You ask them something like "do you know how this PLL circuit works?" and they nod Yes. Ofcourse they should know how it works, after all they took an engineering degree right?

Well, I'll usually explain it to them anyways. And many will be a bit offended.

Then about an hour later, they will come back and ask me a question that makes it obvious that they don't know how it works, and they obviously weren't listening when I explained it to them.

When I rub it in a little, its usually a humbling experience for them. Ultimately, I have a good working relationship with them when they move on, they respect my skills. Most of them are happy to have me on their team.

[PluggyRug]

Red_Eye wrote:

PluggyRug wrote:

kenmore wrote:

like fuck .. the term frog has nothing to do with diet.. not in Quebec anyway.. the origin has to do with politics.. hint hint.. obviously you dont know Quebec history there sheepdog..

Sorry Kenmore, frogs legs is French diet. I visited France once (enough).

You have to one day realise that Quebec is a France wannabee.

Um your talking out of your hat here. We have nothing to do with France nor do we want to. We find them extremely annoying and we want to ship them back when they come over here. The extra annoying are the Parisian types. Even we call them the fucken French. Chalis de Francais ...Tabernakle....
But that would be like calling Americans Limeies, like the term used for the English. Lived and raised in Quebec, never saw frog legs on anyone's plate.
So have you visited Quebec once too? and know all about them like you did visiting France? hahahaha first impression logic I call that.

Wot ya talkin aboot sunshine.

Just gettin a rise outa Kenny.

Although having spent 4 weeks in Paris, I was far from impressed with the arrogance of Parisians.