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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:27 pm
 


Arctic_Menace wrote:
I should also throw Russia in there since they're the ones who said. "Hey, um, guys? Put some damn pressure on Germany!!!!!"
Hey, they put pressure on the Germans right before D-day. The Germans lost nearly a million men in Stalingrad alone. Now put...say half those men in normandy. The troops would have had an even worse time coming up those beaches.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:45 pm
 


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There is no way that General then promoted Field Marshal Bernhard Montgomery could have been excluded from any planning, his input was held in such high regard in Britian at that time.


One more necropost.

I did not have enough time when this first went in and just noticed this statement.

Your credibility just went out the window. At the time of the Dieppe raid not only was Monty not a Field Marshal he was not a General. He was a Lieutenant General at the time of the raid and relatively unknown except in army circles. Promoted to General some three months on 11 Nov 42 upon his success in North Africa. He would not be promoted Field Marshal until Sept 44 after the break out from Normandy.

As to Monty's input and him being held in such high regard? At the time, any reputation he had was based on his training techniques and the fact that he pulled the 3rd "Iron" Division out of France almost entirely intact with regards to personnel. His reputation as someone who spoke his mind without regard to hurt feelings was the real reason that Mountbatten got him taken out of the loop for the re-instatement of the raid. He knew where Monty stood on re-mounting the raid and wanted to make sure Monty would not be heard.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:11 pm
 


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We learned so much from Dieppe, that I think it was quite invaluable as far as the final invasion is concerned. I think that every thing that could go wrong, went wrong with that operation. The result of it was that in the end one was apallingly impressed by the dangers and the hazards of any kind of combined operation on that kind of scale. We never attempted to do a combined operation of that scale before and really nobody knew how to do it.


Goronwy Rees, Major "COSSAC" Staff



Propaganda from Germany at the time. Sad thing is, they didn't even have to lie.


Better propaganda! :wink:


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