[ShepherdsDog]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/sask ... -1.3907717

I'm all for it as long as the schools have a proven track record in attendance and effectively dealing with truancy. I'd also like to see these funds kept separate from the bands general revenue. There have been too many instances where funds meant for teachers pay & pensions, school upkeep and educational programs have gone missing at Band run schools.

[Lemmy]

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[andyt]

The provinces would love that, as long as the federal money goes into their general revenue so they can act just like the band councils and drain off the money for their own purposes. That's why they resist making deals with the feds about money with strings on it. Led by Quebec, of course, screaming about infringement of their sovereignty. They really behave like the FNs in these matters. "Give us more money, but don't ask us to use it for its intended purposes."

[Tman1]

They 'deserve' the level of funding based on population levels. No more no less. We talking about a few hundred to a few thousand per community?

[andyt]

Tman1 Tman1:

They 'deserve' the level of funding based on population levels. No more no less. We talking about a few hundred to a few thousand per community?

In BC, parents kick in a lot of money towards the schools. Richer districts are able to offer much more than poorer ones.

$1:

In an interview with CBC News, Bennett noted that many First Nations schools are remote. Some would like to develop and teach Indigenous language curriculum. Others want to integrate cultural camps or "on-the-land" learning into the school year.

These and other considerations will require more money than the average urban school, Bennett said.

"That's music to our ears," said Assembly of First Nations regional chief and education chair Bobby Cameron.

[Unsound]

I have no problem with this. They've been underfunded for years so a bit of overfunding to help them get a start on catching up is a good thing.

As long as, as shep said, there is some accountability and it actually gets used for it's intended purpose.

[BeaverFever]

Lemmy Lemmy:

It would be more efficient to let the provinces administer FN education (learning curve/expertise, economies of scale, etc..) but, as with most of our FN problems, the Constitution is not our friend.

Ageeed. Provincial Ministries are the experts at delivering services such education, health care etc not the Dep of Aboriginal Affairs which is just a bureaucracy to enforce the colonial Indian Act.

[herbie]

You don't live in rural BC do you?
Half a dozen friends send their kids to the native run elementary school here. Some donate tuition as is still links with Catholic Church, some volunteer making lunches and snacks, as crossing guards, field supervisors in lieu of.
Public school is just cut, cut, cut, close schools, cut, yet another Pro-D day, drop this bus route, walkout, meddle with petty BS, ignore abuse at home, punish the victim of bullying as much as the perp, etc. etc.

[BRAH]

herbie herbie:

You don't live in rural BC do you?
Half a dozen friends send their kids to the native run elementary school here. Some donate tuition as is still links with Catholic Church, some volunteer making lunches and snacks, as crossing guards, field supervisors in lieu of.
Public school is just cut, cut, cut, close schools, cut, yet another Pro-D day, drop this bus route, walkout, meddle with petty BS, ignore abuse at home, punish the victim of bullying as much as the perp, etc. etc.

Interesting, a native run school is more efficient than public school because it doesn't F*** around?

[ShepherdsDog]

There are some band run schools that are excellent. This is all dependent on the quality and interests of the band and chief. This can all change on an election if the band elects a chief and council who have other priorities.....esp personal enrichment.

[andyt]

BRAH BRAH:

herbie herbie:

You don't live in rural BC do you?
Half a dozen friends send their kids to the native run elementary school here. Some donate tuition as is still links with Catholic Church, some volunteer making lunches and snacks, as crossing guards, field supervisors in lieu of.
Public school is just cut, cut, cut, close schools, cut, yet another Pro-D day, drop this bus route, walkout, meddle with petty BS, ignore abuse at home, punish the victim of bullying as much as the perp, etc. etc.

Interesting, a native run school is more efficient than public school because it doesn't F*** around?

I doubt it's about the schools and how they are run themselves, but the provincial govt slashing school funding. Our Liberals are Conservatives except in name only, have no use for public education and would like to just privatize the whole deal. The govt cut school board budgets all across the province, now, just before an election, they've started dribbling some of the funds back - how are administrators supposed to make good budgeting decisions in a case like that?

[housewife]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Lemmy Lemmy:

It would be more efficient to let the provinces administer FN education (learning curve/expertise, economies of scale, etc..) but, as with most of our FN problems, the Constitution is not our friend.

Ageeed. Provincial Ministries are the experts at delivering services such education, health care etc not the Dep of Aboriginal Affairs which is just a bureaucracy to enforce the colonial Indian Act.

Umm bullshit. Provincial Ministries are the experts at fucking up services such as education & health care. Besides it has to be nationally run because of treaties

[BeaverFever]

herbie herbie:

Public school is just cut, cut, cut, close schools, cut, yet another Pro-D day, drop this bus route, walkout, meddle with petty BS, ignore abuse at home, punish the victim of bullying as much as the perp, etc. etc.

Sounds like what you're advocating for is private schools, which is a different topic.

[BeaverFever]

housewife housewife:

Umm bullshit. Provincial Ministries are the experts at fucking up services such as education & health care.

In order for that to be true statement and not just hot air, please show how health care and education were better before the province came along and "fucked them up". Can you do that? No of course you can't. Just because you have personal complaints about some experience with this school or that hospital, or you have some health care expense that's not currently not covered in your province, doesn't make anything you said above true. And you fail to suggest who the experts might actually be.

$1:

Besides it has to be nationally run because of treaties

. Feds have to pay for it, there's nothing that requires them to actually deliver it.

[herbie]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

herbie herbie:

Public school is just cut, cut, cut, close schools, cut, yet another Pro-D day, drop this bus route, walkout, meddle with petty BS, ignore abuse at home, punish the victim of bullying as much as the perp, etc. etc.

Sounds like what you're advocating for is private schools, which is a different topic.

Far from it. It's do it right not either or. That'd be the day I'd ever support stoopid uniforms, piss tests, Jesus interludes and a school board that would've fired Alan Turing from the computer lab cuz he was queer!
It's just as silly making kids use a calculator before most of them grasp basic math concepts or dropping cursive writing altogether.