[PJB]

It is so easy to stereotype one group of people based on the actions of a few. Those few are the ones that grab the public's attention through the media. We never hear the 'good' stories on the evening news simply because they are too happy.

I would honestly think that 98% of the native population in this country simply want the opportunity to make something of themselves, while the other 2% feel that they have some God given right to 'own' everything while not working for anything.

It is true that, in some cases, there was abuse in residential schools but, why hold an entire country responsible for the actions of a few? Is that not stereotyping?

I respect the native culture but I do not think that it is better than my culture and it should be thrown in my face at each and every opportunity.

[CDNBear]

PJB wrote:

It is so easy to stereotype one group of people based on the actions of a few. Those few are the ones that grab the public's attention through the media. We never hear the 'good' stories on the evening news simply because they are too happy.

I would honestly think that 98% of the native population in this country simply want the opportunity to make something of themselves, while the other 2% feel that they have some God given right to 'own' everything while not working for anything.

It is true that, in some cases, there was abuse in residential schools but, why hold an entire country responsible for the actions of a few? Is that not stereotyping?

I respect the native culture but I do not think that it is better than my culture and it should be thrown in my face at each and every opportunity.

HEAR HEAR!

And the reverse is just as true as well.

[CDNBear]

To take a great big swipe at the title of this thread...

In the light of recent events, the title has been proven wrong.

The Six Nations turned down 125 million dollars and stated, the land was more important.

[Biblical_Christian]

PJB wrote:

Don't you guys get it? Natives are a superior race. They knew about every damn resource that existed in this country. Hell they must have known about every resource in the world! Those damn British idiots that came here first and built a railroad that connected the country from Sea to Sea to Sea were all wrong. The natives would have done that eventually. Those rednecks that stuck a screw in the land somewhere in Alberta and struck oil stole something the natives already knew was there but they were just waiting for the right time to go and get it.

The diamonds and silver and uranium up north was just a well kept secret that the natives were going to spring upon us idiots eventually.

Face it folks we should be grateful that we share this land with the most intelligent and patient group of people on Earth!

*Please note. All sarcasm is intended!*

Ndn's could've eventually figured it out or hired out research studies. Look at Africa. They fully well know what they have on there homeland, by now. Probably many years ago. Come on don't kid yourself.

[CDNBear]

Biblical_Christian wrote:

PJB wrote:

Don't you guys get it? Natives are a superior race. They knew about every damn resource that existed in this country. Hell they must have known about every resource in the world! Those damn British idiots that came here first and built a railroad that connected the country from Sea to Sea to Sea were all wrong. The natives would have done that eventually. Those rednecks that stuck a screw in the land somewhere in Alberta and struck oil stole something the natives already knew was there but they were just waiting for the right time to go and get it.

The diamonds and silver and uranium up north was just a well kept secret that the natives were going to spring upon us idiots eventually.

Face it folks we should be grateful that we share this land with the most intelligent and patient group of people on Earth!

*Please note. All sarcasm is intended!*

Ndn's could've eventually figured it out or hired out research studies. Look at Africa. They fully well know what they have on there homeland, by now. Probably many years ago. Come on don't kid yourself.

No offence BC, but using "Africa" as an example won't work. Much of the resource exploitation began with European and western industries. The African nations now reeping resource rewards, are doing so on the back of tech and construction practices they did not develope.

Sadly I would concure with anyone that says that we did not and would likely not have exploited our natural resources beyond food and lodging, but I do not see that as a bad thing either.

Sometimes there is more wealth to be found in no resource exploitation.

[Banff]

CDNBear wrote:

To take a great big swipe at the title of this thread...

In the light of recent events, the title has been proven wrong.

The Six Nations turned down 125 million dollars and stated, the land was more important.

I agree with that ...The land is more important . The less you are able to acquire the more you appreciate it . Its pay back is much larger than money . Money is just nice because it makes people do things for a persons lazy ass.

[CDNBear]

Banff wrote:

CDNBear wrote:

To take a great big swipe at the title of this thread...

In the light of recent events, the title has been proven wrong.

The Six Nations turned down 125 million dollars and stated, the land was more important.

I agree with that ...The land is more important . The less you are able to acquire the more you appreciate it . Its pay back is much larger than money . Money is just nice because it makes people do things for a persons lazy ass.

Hmmm, I don't quite grasp what you're saying in your last sentence?

Can you clarify for me please.

I apparently have to much blood in my caffeine system at the moment.

[Knoss]

Quote:

To take a great big swipe at the title of this thread...

In the light of recent events, the title has been proven wrong.

The Six Nations turned down 125 million dollars and stated, the land was more important.

That could be a big problem, I think expropreation is legal and they are only going to win if it is over compensation.

[CDNBear]

Knoss wrote:

Quote:

To take a great big swipe at the title of this thread...

In the light of recent events, the title has been proven wrong.

The Six Nations turned down 125 million dollars and stated, the land was more important.

That could be a big problem, I think expropreation is legal and they are only going to win if it is over compensation.

Ahhh, only if the land in question was expropriated.

The land in question in Caledonia, was stolen, even by negotiator standards under "Theft By Deception" and the sale voided by the fact the funds were never forworded to the Six Nations trust, held in trust byu the Feds.

In the Ipperwash ordeal, the land was expropriated, a fair amount was paid at the time for lease of the land, Im not sure if funds were extended as the gov't was to return the land in 49, so there could be a monetary settlement to follow on that, if payments were not forworded, during the illegal posession of the land in question.

[PJB]

Outspoken chief rejects council call to resign
Last Updated: Thursday, June 7, 2007 | 7:41 AM CT
CBC News
A Manitoba First Nations chief whose controversial comments made national headlines is refusing to step down, even though a band watchdog group has voted to remove him and his councillors from office.

Speaking to news organizations last month, Chief Terry Nelson of the Roseau River First Nation said: "There's only one way to deal with a white man. You either pick up a gun or you stand between him and his money."

Nelson has also threatened to block railway lines running through his community on June 29 — a national day of action to draw attention to aboriginal poverty and unresolved land claims.

Late last month, the Custom Council of the Roseau River First Nation served a notice of non-confidence in Nelson and his council and ordered a new election for the positions.

"Chief and council were given notice that their last day in office would be June 1," said Martha Laroque, the vice-chair of the council. "We don't have a chief and council in Roseau."

Council member Felix Antoine, a former chief and a political rival of Nelson's, said the comments were the final straw for the group.

"He's humiliating us, embarrassing us. We don't want to be portrayed as terrorists. We have to put a stop to this," he said.

Nelson says he supports the Custom Council's right to recall democratically elected officials, but says this particular council hasn't followed proper procedures for appointing members. A decision made in a secret meeting, possibly without quorum, can't be valid, he said.

Nelson says in contrast, he and his council were re-elected in March for their third straight term, an indication of the support they have in the community.

He also speculated there could be external pressure to get rid of him before June 29.

"I've made quite a bit of enemies in the way I approach things, national day of protest and other things," he said. "Any other opposition in community, no matter how illegitimate it may be, it will be heard."

It's unclear exactly how much authority the Custom Council has, but in the past, the federal court has accepted the results of elections called by this group.

A spokesperson for the Department of Indian Affairs said the department would continue to recognize Nelson as chief until the community elects a new chief and council according to its election code.

Native protesters have held several high-profile rail blockades in recent years. Among the most recent, Mohawks of the Bay of Quinte in southeastern Ontario blocked CN lines for 30 hours in late April, disrupting passenger and freight trains in the busy Toronto-Montreal corridor.