[ridenrain]

Considering the Vikings didn't hang on, it's not so far a stretch, just really, REALLY badly articulated.
That said.. if the 1900 British navy finally found North America, it would be populated by the exact same people, in the same state as it was back in the 1500.

[PJB]

ridenrain wrote:

Considering the Vikings didn't hang on, it's not so far a stretch, just really, REALLY badly articulated.
That said.. if the 1900 British navy finally found North America, it would be populated by the exact same people, in the same state as it was back in the 1500.

No way! There would have been 100 storey teepees and massive birch bark canoes sailing the great lakes.

lol

[Choban]

Well as far as what if's.
If the natives had banded togaether...maybe.
#'s were on the settlers side though, with a steady stream coming from the old world.
Too many factors to say for sure though.

[StuntmanMike]

Sorry Biblical Christian, but the "settlers" dominated the native north Americans for a number of reasons far beyond the fact that "civil chaos" possessed them at the time of our arrival. After all, Europe too was divided and at war throughout most of the years leading up to and including the European expansionist period.

Firstly, we were able to cross the Atlantic. Natives weren't. That's because Europeans had invented crafts such as navigation, woodworking, sailcraft and other technology. They hadn't.

Secondly, when we got here, we had the advantage of advanced agricultural techniques that had been developed over thousands of years, something that wasn't available to the hunter gatherers of the American plains. That ensured we were better nourished and could spend more time thinking and reproducing, and less time surviving.

We also had steel, gunpowder and writing. These tools allowed us to beat the natives in battle repeatedly.

We also had immunity to diseases such as small pox, which we'd developed over thousands of years of evolution on the Asian continent, where trade routes from China to the Middle East, to Europe, ensured that all Europeans developed biological immunity to a wide range of diseases. This wasn't available to native North Americans in the relatively isolated environs of this continent.

When they were finally exposed to such bacteria/virus through us, the results were devastating.

[OldChum]

Firstly, we were able to cross the Atlantic. Natives weren't. That's because Europeans had invented crafts such as navigation, woodworking, sailcraft and other technology. They hadn't.


Funny they could not survive the first winter and they got lost in the land . The natives had ways to go from coast to coast suggest you go backand read the HBay archives as to who got who where. The natives had us beat all to hell in the start here . We may have been smarter at some things but not on the land or in the art of Navigation in a land we did not know.

[OldChum]

Secondly, when we got here, we had the advantage of advanced agricultural techniques that had been developed over thousands of years, something that wasn't available to the hunter gatherers of the American plains. That ensured we were better nourished and could spend more time thinking and reproducing, and less time surviving

God you really need to re study your history and find a different story then what the school books teach.

[OldChum]

We also had immunity to diseases such as small pox, which we'd developed over thousands of years of evolution on the Asian continent, where trade routes from China to the Middle East, to Europe, ensured that all Europeans developed biological immunity to a wide range of diseases. This wasn't available to native North Americans in the relatively isolated environs of this continent.

And where did the Indians come from , clue Bering Strait. These diseases were brought over by the whites along with booze and money . Two of the greatest evils the natives ever encountered.