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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:09 pm
 


CTV-Lance Armstrong has been stripped of his seven Tour de France titles, and banned from competition for life. He is not fighting the allegations.

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-24/a ... es/4220530


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:16 pm
 


They COULD strip him off his Tour titles.

He passed all his drug tests. This shit is ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:20 pm
 


An absolute joke and a disgrace of an alleged legal process.

Armstrong's statement here.

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AUSTIN, Texas - August 23rd, 2012 - There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense.

I had hoped that a federal court would stop USADA’s charade. Although the court was sympathetic to my concerns and recognized the many improprieties and deficiencies in USADA’s motives, its conduct, and its process, the court ultimately decided that it could not intervene.

If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?

From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA’s improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA’s own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today.

The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It’s an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It’s just not right.

USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles. I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours. We all raced together. For three weeks over the same roads, the same mountains, and against all the weather and elements that we had to confront. There were no shortcuts, there was no special treatment. The same courses, the same rules. The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that. Especially not Travis Tygart.

Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly $500 million. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission. Going forward, I am going to devote myself to raising my five beautiful (and energetic) kids, fighting cancer, and attempting to be the fittest 40-year old on the planet.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:22 pm
 


Brenda wrote:
They COULD strip him off his Tour titles.

He passed all his drug tests. This shit is ridiculous.



'They' DID strip him of his titles today!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:48 pm
 


Not according to the story you posted. They said they WILL. And "Should he be stripped, then *list names* would profit.

At some point, there is nothing you can do anymore. You cannot provide more and more proof of something that has been proven already but just is not good enough. I can surely understand that he stops fighting. It costs a ridiculous amount of money, and they will keep yelling "YOU ARE GUILTY AND WE WILL KEEP LOOKING FOR PROOF WE CAN'T FIND". Enough is enough.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:52 pm
 


He was still the best team cyclist because if he was doing it, they were all doing it yet he was still best. It's was an underground level playing field, which I assume still exists. I didn't always care for him but I'm apt to agree with him about the USADA’s process. They have an agenda to make themselves some stripes and consider everyone guilty till proven otherwise.
If they find his old test to be positive then they need to check every rider he competed against as well. But they won't because there is no propaganda in beating up someone who's never been heard of.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:18 pm
 


Yogi wrote:
Brenda wrote:
They COULD strip him off his Tour titles.

He passed all his drug tests. This shit is ridiculous.



'They' DID strip him of his titles today!


Sorry Yogi, but not according to the latest news releases....

USADA to strip Lance Armstrong of Tour titles, ban him for life


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:23 pm
 


Why the fuck didn't he just keep his mouth shut and let them try and prove he did dope instead of engaging in a war of words and antagonizing them. Oh yeah it could be because:

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The USADA previously claimed it has witnesses who allege that Armstrong and five former cycling team associates - including Italian doctor Michele Ferrari and team manager Johan Bruyneel - engaged in a doping conspiracy between 1998 and 2011.


Lance should have used the old Barry Bonds adage, it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a doper than to open it and fail to disprove it.

The process for finding him guilty may have been flawed but given the history of American atheletes both Olympic and Professional, it's probably a pretty safe assumption that if they went after him it wasn't because he dumped Sheryl Crow.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:07 am
 


CTV NEWS announced last night that he had as of yesterday already been banned.

When I googled 'Lance Armstrong banned' this is what came up: with the difference being '2 hours ago'


Lance Armstrong stripped of seven Tour de France ......
11 hours ago ... Disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong received a lifetime ban from Olympic sports early Friday and was stripped of his record seven Tour de ......
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/...


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:25 am
 


Who cares if he's been banned? He's retired.

We all know Armstrong won those races, and passed all his drug tests.

I wouldn't consider him disgraced at all. The only thing disgraced is the process and the USADA.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:33 am
 


If I could rep you, I would OTI


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:43 am
 


I think Regina put it best.

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He was still the best team cyclist because if he was doing it, they were all doing it yet he was still best.


But I guess going after the guy who finished in 5th place who nobody heard of doesn't get headlines. :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:55 am
 


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The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) says it will ban Lance Armstrong for life and strip him of his seven Tour de France titles for doping.


The USADA has FA authority to tell the French what to do. And this has been spun quite a bit by the media. Armstrong has exhausted his appeals in the matter which is far different from saying that he's accepting the ruling of the USADA. Once the USADA makes their final ruling then Armstrong will have the right to move the matter into the courts where this BS witch-hunt against him will have to stand up before a real court, not just a politically charged self-appointed panel with some sort of bizarre agenda.

Bottom line is that Armstrong passed 100% of his drug screenings and these f*ckers are still coming after him based on anonymous testimony that they won't divulge to Armstrong's legal team.

That kind of sh*t won't fly once it gets to a real court and I hope Armstrong sues these rat ba$tards into the stone age once they lose their case.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:29 am
 


Fuck Lance Armstrong and fuck the lot of them that he competed with and against. None of them have any honour. They've all lost the true meaning of sport. Sport isn't supposed to put winning ahead of playing by the rules. Your disgrace is well earned, Lance. And Sheryl Crow says "Fuck you" too.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:34 am
 


Did you miss the fact he passed ALL his drug tests?


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