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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
 


John Tory facing tough three years as Conservative leader: observers

By Chinta Puxley, THE CANADIAN PRESS






TORONTO - John Tory faces a difficult three years as Conservative leader after a divisive vote of confidence over the weekend that was supposed to silence his critics and their questions about his leadership, but ended up doing the opposite, political observers said Monday.

Tory said it's time to move on after nearly 67 per cent of delegates rejected holding a leadership contest, but that will be easier said than done with critics nipping at his heels for months to come, said political science professor David Docherty.

"These are troubling times for the Conservative party," said Docherty, dean of arts at Wilfrid Laurier University. "They're in a bit of a self-inflicted jam at the moment."

The question of Tory's leadership has created a nasty schism within the party.

While supporters argued Tory learned from the mistakes of the October election, a vocal group of party members lobbied hard for a leadership review, saying he squandered the campaign and doesn't deserve a second chance.

Saturday's vote did little to silence critics who say serious doubts about Tory's leadership still remain.

With one-third of the party voting to oust Tory, Docherty said it puts wind in the sails of potential successors like veteran party members Tim Hudak and Christine Elliott, or even federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, who sought the job back in 2002 but came second to Ernie Eves.

Tory seemed to play right into their hands this weekend by taking hours to decide whether to stay on after the voting results were announced at the party's annual meeting, Docherty added.

Tory should have walked on stage right away and immediately declared his intention to remain at the helm with the support of two-thirds of the party, he said.

"That would have put it to rest and it would have made any groundswell of support for other individuals seem like an attack on John Tory's leadership," Docherty said.

"Now, it seems a natural reaction to someone who seems indecisive. That's the problem he's got himself in."

Tory is especially vulnerable because he still doesn't have a seat in the legislature, added McMaster University professor Henry Jacek.

Although Tory has said he's in no hurry to win himself a seat, Jacek said it's difficult to unite the party and hold the Liberals to account without the profile that goes along with holding a seat in the legislature.

Even if Tory was in a hurry to run, Jacek said he would be most comfortable seeking a seat in an urban riding - very few of which are currently held by Conservatives.

"The fact that he's not in the legislature will continue to fuel his critics," Jacek said. "It's going to be a hard slog for John Tory. People are going to be biting at his heels right up until the next election."

An aide said Tory was in "back-to-back" meetings Monday and wasn't available for comment.

In a letter sent Monday to Conservative members, Tory urged party faithful to unite behind him. Delegates decided on Saturday that the party is better off fighting the Liberals than fighting each other, he said.

"Leadership review produce tensions in a political party because they force people to choose sides in an internal family discussion," Tory wrote. "I am asking people to put those discussions behind us and move forward."

That's going to be difficult, his critics say.

One party veteran, who asked not to be identified, said many feel the results of the vote didn't give Tory the support he needed to lead the Conservatives into the 2011 election.

Tory's indecision about whether he wanted to continue on in the job following the vote just underlined the concerns many had about his leadership, the source said.

"He seemed to miss a big opportunity to lay out any sort of plan for the future or a plan to reach out to disenfranchised members at the convention," the Conservative said. "It's a bit doubtful that he has one."

Another party member said people will be looking for bold action, not another listening tour of the province.

"Leadership is about concrete action," the source said. "It's not about making phone calls."

Tory supporter John Capobianco said the leader is well aware of the hard feelings that persist following the weekend meeting. But he said Tory will do what he did following the last leadership contest and reach out to his harshest critics.

"The convention was a very positive step to cleanse and heal the wounds," said Capobianco.

"It allowed people to voice their concerns. The next step is to acknowledge and to hear what the other side has been saying and make the changes."

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:57 pm
 


agree john tory has but himself into a tough spot , he has to do something soon to regain his credibility . either win a seat somewhere , it would help if he was able to steal a seat from the liberals somewhere if one opened up for whatever reason . more than likely a current pc mpp will have to retire and allow tory to run in there old riding in a by-election. but i'm not sure that will be enough especially if its a really conservative riding to begin with.

a long 3 years ahead for john tory is likely an understatement as things stand now.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:20 pm
 


what a tool tho.. I mean he was short something like 20% of the votes he needed and so he decides to hang on... the liberals must be celebrating that little power trip.. they will be in power for another 8 yrs..


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:47 pm
 


kenmore wrote:
what a tool tho.. I mean he was short something like 20% of the votes he needed and so he decides to hang on... the liberals must be celebrating that little power trip.. they will be in power for another 8 yrs..



but eventually people will get sick of the liberals , after years of same majority government people will get tired of them . and some of the ndp people who just voted for them to stop pc's will go back to ndp or greens .

but as for tory , he has some tough years ahead and he needs a seat if he wants to be taken seriously . and he needs to find some ways to get better press and attention


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:57 pm
 


I agree that Tory has a hard road to travel.
Part of the new conservative drive needs to be healing the wounds from Mike Harris. I am personally aware of many voters who still feel strongly about his (apparent) failings.
The Liberals in Ontario are using the same fear mongering tactics as the Feds did not too long ago.
It'll last until Tory can demonstrate his intentions with deeds just like Harper.
Best of luck!


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Ahah! I see the truly intelligent and educated rebuttal has arrived!
Hopefully you are not a reflection of the average Forum User on this site.


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Tory will be OK. He represents the traditional Canadian/British conservatism, not the current American conservatism of the Neo-cons. John Kenneth Galbraith accurately predicted that the Neo-con economic philosophy from the University of Chicago followed by Reagan (Reaganomics)and espoused by the current Calgary School (Flanagan, Harper, Harris, et al) would fail. Look at the American economy now, after eight years of George Bush and Cheney!


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he would not be having problems if he did not advocate funding for private religious schools


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