[Brenda]

Apollo wrote:

As much crime in Whitby as in Toronto? Surely you jest. There's a shooting almost daily in Toronto. I can't even remember the last time there was a shooting in Whitby.
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As far as having nothing to do in the suburbs. How about street hockey games like there used to be in Toronto. Kids playing outside and making friends. Neighbours stopping to talk to each other. Spontaneous BBQ parties.

The only street games I see when I'm in the city is "trip over the homeless guy game"

I'm moving to Whitby now!

(j/k )

[Bar0n]

Brenda wrote:

Apollo wrote:

As much crime in Whitby as in Toronto? Surely you jest. There's a shooting almost daily in Toronto. I can't even remember the last time there was a shooting in Whitby.
y"
As far as having nothing to do in the suburbs. How about street hockey games like there used to be in Toronto. Kids playing outside and making friends. Neighbours stopping to talk to each other. Spontaneous BBQ parties.

The only street games I see when I'm in the city is "trip over the homeless guy game"

I'm moving to Whitby now!

(j/k )

me too

[LIVdb]

Whitby is a great place to live but I think it comes down to what point in your life you're at, someone in the 20's would probably prefer to be more central whereas someone raising a family wants a quieter neighbourhood with more schools, parks etc...

Going back on topic I check out Toronto.com when Im looking for interesting stuff in the city that I may not have thought of originally.

Also if you're new the city here is a great article about how to get the most out of renting in the city, hope it helps.

http://www.livdb.com/How-to-Rent-Toront ... ments/851/

[Monkeyman]

Woah, the battle between who lives in the better hood is on! haha.

As much as I would like to say Whitby is no better than T.O. I don't know if I can.

Toronto does have a lot of crime, I've personally never seen it first hand, or been involved in anything more than seeing the aftermath of a crime. I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm stepping over police tape to get anywhere but it's apparent. Of course living in any major city in the world your gonna see this.

Whitby has it's fair share of the same issues, crime, drugs, poverty, etc. But because of it's size it's scaled down. And you have to remember that every event that happens in T.O. is covered by the media. Not every incident taking place in Whitby is known.

I don't have kids yet but to be honest I don't think I'd want to raise them in either place. Toronto for the obvious reasons and Whitby because it's huge issue with drugs and poverty. (Please don't say this is untrue because it's a fact that you may just ignore and take the other side street.)

Every place has it's pros and cons.

[Dayseed]

Apollo wrote:

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When you grow up in the city, you learn to understand people, culture,

You must be kidding. I took public transportation for 8 years when I lived in Toronto. There would be dozens of people on every bus I was on and over 8 years I don't remember a single conversation between any two strangers.

Is this the type of culture learning you're talking about?

Frankly, I don't care what you think of suburban life. While your stepping over police tape to get past your local street, I'll be passing my neigbour a cold beer while flipping steaks on my BBQ.

Cheers.

Here here. Toronto is just too damn big anymore. Neighbourhoods that are worth living in are too expensive to live in, unless you want to be house poor, or they're midtown, at which point you're fucking trapped there if you have a car because there's no speedy way to leave midtown. There are nice, isolated pockets in North York, especially near Leaside, but the price is jacked up.

And there's nothing in neighbourhoods like Riverdale that I ever found appealing. Woo fucking hoo, I can walk to the Danforth to eat Greek food or I could stop to shit on a homeless person on DeGrassi Street. The Beaches (not the goddamn Beach) have crowded housing and the streets there were measured with a matchbox for all the room they afford you.

Now, if I could have wrangled a Centre Island home, I would have cheered.

The suburbs are the way to go.