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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:54 am
 


Ontario set to veto ban on clotheslines

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Speak Out: Clotheslines Apr 18, 2008 04:30 AM
Robert Benzie
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Ontarians will soon be able to air their linen in public.

Premier Dalton McGuinty is to announce today that clotheslines can no longer be banned in subdivisions or almost anywhere else in the province.

In a bid to curb the use of energy-sucking dryers, the new regulation will overrule neighbourhood covenants – part of the mortgage agreement between many developers and homebuyers – that outlaw clotheslines because they're considered unsightly.

The regulation, to take effect today, will not only prohibit new bans but also wipe out most that already exist, a provision that angered the province's building industry.

It will apply to free-standing and semi-detached homes and most row houses.

Highrise condos and apartments won't be affected for now. The province wants more consultation about them to deal with safety and other concerns.

"The premier wanted to move quickly on this because it's a simple way to help families save money and help to save the environment," said a government official. "We're always looking for opportunities to help people find ways to conserve energy and fight climate change."

The announcement will come as Toronto Hydro launches a giveaway of 75,000 clotheslines through four retail chains.

Each Saturday and Sunday from April 26 to May 11, retractable lines for indoor or outdoor use, worth $13 to $15 each, will be handed to the first 500 shoppers at some Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Costco and Zellers locations. Details can be found at torontohydro.com.

Dryers account for 5 to 6 per cent of Ontario's household electricity demand. An average machine consumes about 900 kilowatt-hours of energy each year and results in the discharge of up to 840 kilograms of air pollution and greenhouse gases. Each dryer adds about $90 a year to a household's electricity bill.

The new regulation comes under the province's Energy Conservation Leadership Act, which empowers the government to remove barriers to conservation, including covenants and municipal bylaws.

McGuinty's move, following a 60-day consultation period, was urged by many elected municipal officials and environment groups.

Ontario's chief conservation officer, Peter Love, recommended overriding the bans last November. Across North America, the issue has spawned an advocacy movement known as "Right to Dry."

But the group that represents the province's housing industry said the regulation should not be retroactive.

All new developments could be clothesline-friendly but existing bans should not be overturned, said Victor Fiume, past-president of the Ontario Home Builders Association and general manager of Oshawa-based Durham Homes.

"It's taking away a right from people who knew (a ban) was in place and purchased a home because of that," Fiume said.

Clothesline bans are imposed in 20 to 30 per cent of the province's subdivisions, and are part of the legally binding contract between builder and buyer, he said. "Is this what government should be doing – overturning contracts signed by parties voluntarily?

"It's a slippery slope to arbitrarily remove a covenant between builders and buyers."

Instead of an "arbitrary" government move, it would be better if opponents of the bans sought a court ruling against them. But that has never happened, he said.

In any case, Fiume said, the new regulation is a non-issue because few people will use clotheslines in any case. "With today's lifestyle, no one has the time or inclination to hang their clothes outside to dry."

The new regulation is just a first step, said Chris Winter of the Conservation Council of Ontario. "The overwhelming majority of people say it's a good move and are solidly behind it. That doesn't mean the overwhelming majority will dry every piece of clothing on a clothesline. But this is a start."

http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/415836


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want to know why there doing this ?

because ontario is headed to the poor house and people will have to cut back somewhere , its going to be like the dirty 30's people will have clothlines hanging off from apartment buildigns and such .


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Good news for Ontario.
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In a bid to curb the use of energy-sucking dryers, the new regulation will overrule neighbourhood covenants – part of the mortgage agreement between many developers and homebuyers – that outlaw clotheslines because they're considered unsightly.
I think they should ban suburbs for being unsightly.





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Blue_Nose wrote:
Good news for Ontario.
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In a bid to curb the use of energy-sucking dryers, the new regulation will overrule neighbourhood covenants – part of the mortgage agreement between many developers and homebuyers – that outlaw clotheslines because they're considered unsightly.
I think they should ban suburbs for being unsightly.


we should all live on top of one and other like the third world...that way illness and disease can spread faster.


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This is a good move on the part of the Government.

We used to use a diaper service, but cancelled that when it became cheaper to buy and wash our own. Then we got slammed with an enormous electricity bill because we were drying them at high temperature. We got a drying rack to dry them on in teh winter, but as summer approaches, it'd be nice to be able to do that outside and get the bleaching and disinfecting effects of UV to boot. I hope my condo doesn't have a problem with this.


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Blue_Nose wrote:
Good news for Ontario.
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In a bid to curb the use of energy-sucking dryers, the new regulation will overrule neighbourhood covenants – part of the mortgage agreement between many developers and homebuyers – that outlaw clotheslines because they're considered unsightly.
I think they should ban suburbs for being unsightly.


This.





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hurley_108 wrote:
This is a good move on the part of the Government.

We used to use a diaper service, but cancelled that when it became cheaper to buy and wash our own. Then we got slammed with an enormous electricity bill because we were drying them at high temperature. We got a drying rack to dry them on in teh winter, but as summer approaches, it'd be nice to be able to do that outside and get the bleaching and disinfecting effects of UV to boot. I hope my condo doesn't have a problem with this.



you used a diaper service?...are you friggen rich or something :lol:

I don't know how you can get much use out of a clothsline in Alberta, unless freeze drying is the intention.


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mtbr wrote:
hurley_108 wrote:
This is a good move on the part of the Government.

We used to use a diaper service, but cancelled that when it became cheaper to buy and wash our own. Then we got slammed with an enormous electricity bill because we were drying them at high temperature. We got a drying rack to dry them on in teh winter, but as summer approaches, it'd be nice to be able to do that outside and get the bleaching and disinfecting effects of UV to boot. I hope my condo doesn't have a problem with this.



you used a diaper service?...are you friggen rich or something :lol:


I see the smilie, but the service really is no more expensive than disposables - $20/week for 10 diapers a day.

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I don't know how you can get much use out of a clothsline in Alberta, unless freeze drying is the intention.


Yea, it would be a summer thing, but better than nothing.


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mtbr wrote:
Blue_Nose wrote:
Good news for Ontario.
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In a bid to curb the use of energy-sucking dryers, the new regulation will overrule neighbourhood covenants – part of the mortgage agreement between many developers and homebuyers – that outlaw clotheslines because they're considered unsightly.
I think they should ban suburbs for being unsightly.


we should all live on top of one and other like the third world...that way illness and disease can spread faster.


ssh , don't give the liberals any ideas





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hurley_108 wrote:

Yea, it would be a summer thing, but better than nothing.


Summer...1st week of July to the second week of August...and getting shorter every year.

I'd like to see someone use a clothesline this weekend in Calgary 8O





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hurley_108 wrote:
I see the smilie, but the service really is no more expensive than disposables - $20/week for 10 diapers a day.



So a diaper service gives you diapers that were on someone else's kid the day before?

8O .....I would be a little worried...


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hurley_108 wrote:
mtbr wrote:
hurley_108 wrote:
This is a good move on the part of the Government.

We used to use a diaper service, but cancelled that when it became cheaper to buy and wash our own. Then we got slammed with an enormous electricity bill because we were drying them at high temperature. We got a drying rack to dry them on in teh winter, but as summer approaches, it'd be nice to be able to do that outside and get the bleaching and disinfecting effects of UV to boot. I hope my condo doesn't have a problem with this.



you used a diaper service?...are you friggen rich or something :lol:


I see the smilie, but the service really is no more expensive than disposables - $20/week for 10 diapers a day.

Quote:
I don't know how you can get much use out of a clothsline in Alberta, unless freeze drying is the intention.


Yea, it would be a summer thing, but better than nothing.


no i imagine the way ontario is going it will become a permanent thing as long as mcguinty is premier and the same fools continue to run our hydro system here


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mtbr wrote:
So a diaper service gives you diapers that were on someone else's kid the day before?

8O .....I would be a little worried...


It's no different than putting your own diapers on your own kid one day and then again teh next - they get washed in between. :D


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mtbr wrote:
Blue_Nose wrote:
Good news for Ontario.
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In a bid to curb the use of energy-sucking dryers, the new regulation will overrule neighbourhood covenants – part of the mortgage agreement between many developers and homebuyers – that outlaw clotheslines because they're considered unsightly.
I think they should ban suburbs for being unsightly.


we should all live on top of one and other like the third world...that way illness and disease can spread faster.
No, we should either live in the city or live in the country - subdivisions are a waste of space, especially when it comes to building expanding the water, sewer and electrical distribution grid so some yuppies can have a dozen square feet of grass in front of their house to trim on the weekend.


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mtbr wrote:
hurley_108 wrote:
I see the smilie, but the service really is no more expensive than disposables - $20/week for 10 diapers a day.



So a diaper service gives you diapers that were on someone else's kid the day before?

8O .....I would be a little worried...


I'd be more worried about the ecological nightmare that the millions of disposable diapers that get tossed out every week posses.


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