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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:55 pm
 


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GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.



Did Toronto pay my lake fees this year so I can go swimming? :P


Did Alberta pay my insurance this year?


Probably did 2x over :P ...


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:56 pm
 


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GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.
I gotta say, I've gone to schools all across the interior of BC and not one of them had it's own pool. I was quite surprised to find out schools in Toronto had them.


Probably because we are talking about community pools and not ones link exclusively to schools.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:57 pm
 


mtbr wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
mtbr wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
sasquatch2 wrote:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.



Did Toronto pay my lake fees this year so I can go swimming? :P


Did Alberta pay my insurance this year?


Probably did 2x over :P ...


Thats funny since just as you paid your lake fees I paid my insurance. If you are talijng transfer payments then no money from Alberta came to us as Ontario has been a net giver since its inception.





PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:00 pm
 


DerbyX wrote:
mtbr wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
mtbr wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
sasquatch2 wrote:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.



Did Toronto pay my lake fees this year so I can go swimming? :P


Did Alberta pay my insurance this year?



Probably did 2x over :P ...


Thats funny since just as you paid your lake fees I paid my insurance. If you are talijng transfer payments then no money from Alberta came to us as Ontario has been a net giver since its inception.
:lol:

You just said you paid for the rest of Canada to go swimming...guess not.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:05 pm
 


mtbr wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
mtbr wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
mtbr wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
sasquatch2 wrote:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.



Did Toronto pay my lake fees this year so I can go swimming? :P


Did Alberta pay my insurance this year?



Probably did 2x over :P ...


Thats funny since just as you paid your lake fees I paid my insurance. If you are talijng transfer payments then no money from Alberta came to us as Ontario has been a net giver since its inception.
:lol:

You just said you paid for the rest of Canada to go swimming...guess not.


I'll be sure to take everything you say absolutely literally from now on.

Thanks for admitting you lied about Alberta paying my insurance. Admitting your error is the first step.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:39 pm
 


In Manitoba, the break up of school ages is:

K-5 = Primary
5-8 = Middle Years
9-12 = High School

Because I am in a small town we have all the students from K-12 in one building. But each division (primary, middle years, or high school) has their own wing of the school.

In smaller communities a K-12 all-in-one school is a better use of resources, because you can shift teachers and I.A.s (Instructional Assistants) between primary, middle years, or high school.

But I do believe that in cities, where there is enough students it would be better to have a more split up system, such as:

K-6 - Elementary School
7-9 - Junior High
10-12 - High School

The only issues there are kids sometimes get split up from there friends when they move up into a different school.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:25 am
 


I currently attend a 7-12 high school.

The system is uniquely split that 7-9 is "Junior" and 10-12 is "High". The school is generally fine, though there is constant pressure.

There are random drug searches, and heavy penalties for fighting. The school remains the worst for "fighting" in the district, but the rated the best in terms of bullying. How that works is funny. Everyone in our school is pissed off, but all fighting is pretty much agreed to, never randomly starts and never ever reported. It's a pretty safe school. It relaxes the mind for a lot of students. It has it's problem, but it's better than any retarded Middle School.

I believe the 7-12 design is pretty good, not K-8


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:15 am
 


mtbr wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
sasquatch2 wrote:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.



Did Toronto pay my lake fees this year so I can go swimming? :P


Brilliant parallel. Next. I guess commenting on the actual topic isn't going to happen. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:22 am
 


My only issue, to play Devil's advocate, is that TDSB can be willfully excessive in its educational spending. Some are justifiable (such as pools) but others, like outdoor ed programs or locally-developed initiatives, might need to be put on hold (the same with new board-sponsored educational directives) as other pressing matters exist.

It should also be noted the strains put on urban boards that tax its resources such as ESL, special ed, socio-economic compound the problems as school boards slowly fix the mangled Harris founding formula.

This is a complex problem that needs some financial creativity. Even the National Post suggested alternatives that included private donations and municipal contributions.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:58 am
 


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I have a test for you Ryan: I want you to name one thing or policy introduced by the Liberals in Ontario or by McGuinty in the last few years that YOU think was a good thing.

And I don't mean a backhanded thing like "he didn't screw things up as bad as I thought he would".



well i can't think of anything off hand .
i think mcguinty is only popular because all the women seem to like him and he gets all this free biased media coverage , i really can't think of anything he has done that i though was great .


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:47 am
 


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I have a test for you Ryan: I want you to name one thing or policy introduced by the Liberals in Ontario or by McGuinty in the last few years that YOU think was a good thing.

And I don't mean a backhanded thing like "he didn't screw things up as bad as I thought he would".



well i can't think of anything off hand .
i think mcguinty is only popular because all the women seem to like him and he gets all this free biased media coverage , i really can't think of anything he has done that i though was great .


Why am I not surprised.....

Do keep at it thought. I'm interested to see what you think Mcguity has done that impressed you in the past few years. Maybe you can find something in this mythical unbiased media you refer to constantly.


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