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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:40 am
 


Toronto's 'middle' schools may face axe
April 18, 2008

Louise Brown


Caught in the hurricane of hormones between childhood and the adult world, pre-teens have been called the toughest to teach – but budget woes threaten to change the way Toronto public schools handle these middle years.

The Toronto District School Board's new plan to consider phasing out many "middle" schools, as it merges costly small and half-empty schools, is sparking fresh debate about the value of these free-standing hubs of pre-adolescence.

While most agree this age is crucial – "the brain grows as much between 11 and 13 as it does between zero and 2," says Brampton vice-principal Julia Breen – research seems split on whether students fare better in their own "middle school" or as part of a school from junior kindergarten to Grade 8.

"There are arguments on both sides for how to teach these kids; kids who are dealing with hormones and changing their mood 500 times a day," said Breen, whose booming Cheyne Middle School has 740 pupils in Grades 6, 7 and 8.

"On the one hand, some say a JK-to-8 school is good because having little kids around can bring out empathy in these older kids.

"On the other hand, some say little kids take up a lot of a school's attention, when you need a staff that really understands the middle-school psyche," she noted. ``Either way, you need to create a culture that reflects these older kids."

Toronto has an array of models inherited from its six former boards, from JK-to-Grade 8 schools to junior high schools where Grade 7 and 8 students "rotate" between classes for half the day, or all day, and "middle schools" where Grade 6, 7 and 8 students spend half a day with each of two teachers.

But a report from the General Asset and Program Planning working group, which trustees approved Wednesday night, suggests elementary schools be consolidated toward an "optimum" size of 450 students to trim costs and free up funding as enrolment falls by 4,000 students per year.

As part of wide public consultations to begin in six wards this June, the report suggests many middle schools be considered for phasing out in the coming years, not just to bolster elementary schools, but also to reduce the times students move from one school to another.

"There is definite research that the more transitions a student makes, the greater their chance of less success in school," said Gerry Connelly, the board's director of education. "Transitions matter."

She said the board should do whatever it can to decrease the number of times students need to switch schools. "And we find in this board that the most vulnerable students are often making the most transitions."

Not all middle schools would be eliminated, the report notes – especially those with specialized facilities like music rooms and technical equipment.

"Re-configuration of grades, where it occurs, should maintain or improve space to offer appropriate programs," said the 42-page blueprint for consolidating schools.

Closing all middle schools, it notes, "would require disruption across hundreds of schools, and would add significant unnecessary costs."

Across the United States, several jurisdictions from Portland to Philadelphia have or are moving away from the middle school model.

Last December, the District of Columbia announced it too is moving toward kindergarten to Grade 8 schools.

The research is mixed; some has shown better test scores among students in K-8 schools, others no difference. A study of Philadelphia's system, however, found that students felt safer and better about themselves if they'd been in a K-8 school. Other studies have found fewer discipline problems among Grade 6 students in K-8 schools compared with middle schools.

The problems with middle schools, some researchers say, is that children arrive from various feeder schools and are preoccupied with finding their place in a new school.

Trustee Gerri Gershon said in her ward of Don Valley West, only two schools are junior kindergarten to Grade 8 and the rest a mix of models.

While she said "dissolving junior highs" will come at some point, families tend to prefer the tight-knit community of a K-to-8 school, and in fact ask for them.

"They like the warmth and caring and sense of family," she said.

Veteran Grade 7/8 teacher Connie Stella of Brampton's Great Lakes Public School has taught in both types of school and says both can work if they provide this "vulnerable" age with support, leadership programs and a building designed with their age group in mind, with a cafeteria, a central meeting place and an auditorium.

"You've got to really love that age group – and for the most part I do, because you can do so much to help them make the transition, and make good choices that will influence who they become in the next five years."


Toronto Star


http://parentcentral.ca/parent/article/415830


all these wonderful things happening under the watchful eye of the so called " education premier "


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I have a test for you Ryan: I want you to name one thing or policy introduced by the Liberals in Ontario or by McGuinty in the last few years that YOU think was a good thing.

And I don't mean a backhanded thing like "he didn't screw things up as bad as I thought he would".


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It's ryan, not Ryan. ;)


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xerxes xerxes:
I have a test for you Ryan: I want you to name one thing or policy introduced by the Liberals in Ontario or by McGuinty in the last few years that YOU think was a good thing.

And I don't mean a backhanded thing like "he didn't screw things up as bad as I thought he would".


Won't happen. He's a partisan parrot and he thinks that Xeroxing other's articles (without commentary, of course) constitutes "contribution". I'll wait and see if he does in fact take up your challenge.

I'd like to know how any of these educational issues are directly attributable to McGuinty?


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GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


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sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


Do you mean TDSB as there's no such thing as GTA school board. Buy, hey, don't let a lack of understanding stop you from piping in.

It's a little more complicated than your cursory observations.


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picky ther mustang... TDSB or GTA or shit hole toronto we all know what it means.. how many cities in ontario have middle schools anyway? they dont have them in most cities do they?


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kenmore kenmore:
picky ther mustang... TDSB or GTA or shit hole toronto we all know what it means.. how many cities in ontario have middle schools anyway? they dont have them in most cities do they?


One person's "picky" is another's "correct". It demonstrates a lack of understanding, sorry. The Greater Toronto Area can extend from Oshawa to Burlington to Barrie and if you think that's synonymous with Toronto, then you need a geography lesson.

Anyway, this is objective fact, so i'm not my role to "prove" anything here.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:45 pm
 


kenmore kenmore:
picky ther mustang... TDSB or GTA or shit hole toronto we all know what it means.. how many cities in ontario have middle schools anyway? they dont have them in most cities do they?


pretty much anything over 100,000 has middle schools. I know Thunder Bay has about 4 middle schools, we also have two high schools that have grades 7-12 though.

it's weird, I know


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It depends where you are too. Here in BC, the Min. of Ed only reintroduced them in 2001/2002 and built a bunch of new schools as well which I though should have gone to updating or replacing old ones, especially in Northern BC.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:33 pm
 


ok.. I thought just the US used the term..


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sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.





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DerbyX DerbyX:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.



Did Toronto pay my lake fees this year so I can go swimming? :P


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DerbyX DerbyX:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.
I gotta say, I've gone to schools all across the interior of BC and not one of them had it's own pool. I was quite surprised to find out schools in Toronto had them.


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mtbr mtbr:
DerbyX DerbyX:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
GTA has a "education" crisis on it's hands----it thinks. The lack of funds means that the GTA school board will have to close 43 swimming pools. WTF were they blowing money on what the rest of the province regards as a luxury?

How many kids outside the GTA reach adulthood without ever swimming in a proper swimming pool rather than a swimming hole.

Personally my first real access to a pool was at university.


First off, pools are not a "luxury". They have been a part of virtually every community for along time.

Second, Toronto is having a money crunch due to the 2 billion plus dollars it gives to make sure everybody else in Canada can go swimming.



Did Toronto pay my lake fees this year so I can go swimming? :P


Did Alberta pay my insurance this year?


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