[mtbr]

lily wrote:

Both jobs need to be done.

You want to talk responsibility... how about doubling or even tripling the wage of daycare providers?

Garbage is garbage human life and safe transportation trump emptying garbage cans.
yes daycare workers should get paid much more than garbage men as well.

[mtbr]

lily wrote:

mtbr wrote:

and why do you think Calgary is short of bus drivers but not garbage men?

I heard a couple of off-duty bus drivers here in Vancouver chatting, and if things are the same there as here, i'll guess it's crappy hours and a lack of a consistent schedule that you can count on and budget around.

Too many split shifts for the new guys.

possibly..so if its the crappy hours than that's another reason to pay them more. Garbage men work 4 X 10 in Calgary..friggen dentist hours

[Shadow_Flanker]

Fredharvey, hopefully for you, your union doesn't mis-represent you like mine does. If you people do go one strike, good luck and pray its a short one.

[TerryFox]

Fredharvey who lives above me can't log in because we share a router with the same ISP. He would just like to say he did already get screw by his union once . He thinks his union and management are one nice corrupted group , they work hand in hand together . He not a union rep or working in management department , just a simple everyday worker saying they will be on strike next contract . For one person to say that must mean he getting his info from management . So what that tell you ? Manaegment is more or less not even going to negotiate . That's life and you more on . Bye people of this forum .

BTW It's me FH typing this on my friend computer . So Long PPL

[Yogi]

[quote="fredharvey"]. They hire a guy who has 6 months experience usually we call these type of ppl seasonal workers . All seasonal workers only get 6 months terms, that it . That how management wants it . Any ways they made a seasonal worker a supervisor , not only one but a few of them. These ppl have never done the job before.They don't have any experience and yet they are supervisor now . Most of the supervisor they made there now have less seniority then most garbageman , why ?


WHY? I'll tell you why. Those people hired to management positions likely have the EDUCATION & COMMAND of ENGLISH to be able to carry out the duties to run the department! I AM NOT insinuating that you don't have the education , but clearly your command of the English language is lacking. Have you taken more than basic ESL classes? Do you possess more than rudimentary computer skills? In todays workforce excellent computer skills are a necessity. In your 20+ years of employment, what advancement programs have you taken advantage of? What businiess management courses have you graduated from?

If YOU want to be a manager, then you MUST be smarter than the smartest man/woman that YOU want to manage!

[Shadow_Flanker]

Yogi wrote:

fredharvey wrote:

. They hire a guy who has 6 months experience usually we call these type of ppl seasonal workers . All seasonal workers only get 6 months terms, that it . That how management wants it . Any ways they made a seasonal worker a supervisor , not only one but a few of them. These ppl have never done the job before.They don't have any experience and yet they are supervisor now . Most of the supervisor they made there now have less seniority then most garbageman , why ?


WHY? I'll tell you why. Those people hired to management positions likely have the EDUCATION & COMMAND of ENGLISH to be able to carry out the duties to run the department! I AM NOT insinuating that you don't have the education , but clearly your command of the English language is lacking. Have you taken more than basic ESL classes? Do you possess more than rudimentary computer skills? In todays workforce excellent computer skills are a necessity. In your 20+ years of employment, what advancement programs have you taken advantage of? What businiess management courses have you graduated from?

If YOU want to be a manager, then you MUST be smarter than the smartest man/woman that YOU want to manage!

Not necessarily Yogi. Quite a few managers I've dealt with are dumber than retarded monkeys. When you can't even make a ONE week shift schedule right, call in staff when short, make a proper inventory order or even payroll then you're not smarter than the people under you. Its not just "low management" people that get the retards but the upper echelons of the corporate ladder get them too.

I've seen a couple of department managers that are complete fucktards and cause alot of trouble and headaches for the "grunts". What do the upper echelons do? They put them in a dif. department and nothing changes and this goes on for 4-5 years. All of a sudden, the upper echelons decide enough is enough and fire the dummies. The light bulb in their heads finally clicks on.