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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:45 pm
 


Title: Trudeau, Niagara Falls among top Canadian icons, poll finds
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Date: 2008-06-26 14:44:03
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Trudeau! another 3 years of his shit and Alberta would have been free. :lol: Image



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:39 pm
 


Free from what? Alberta couldnt survive without Canada... you would think that westerners where the subject of tyranny... jeeze you live in the best country in the world and dont know it.. you might want to get out more... Trudeau was the best PM ever!



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:47 pm
 


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Free from what? Alberta couldnt survive without Canada... you would think that westerners where the subject of tyranny... jeeze you live in the best country in the world and dont know it.. you might want to get out more...

Say what you will about Alberta separation, but you are the one with the Bloc logo by your name.
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Would that be another Quebec based media company who was handed huge checks from Chretien during ADSCAM?



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:21 pm
 


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:27 pm
 


kenmore wrote:
Trudeau was the best PM ever!


Thats a matter of opinion. His reckless spending is one of the major reasons why this country is in serious debt today. I can think of quite a few better PM's off the top of my head. Pearson, King, St. Laurent, Laurier...


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NIAGARA FALLS!? DEFINING CANADA!? NIAGARA FALLS!? GAH! BLASPHEMY!

Ridiculous! have these people ever BEEN to Niagara falls!?

Let me explain Niagara falls to you.. (its a long one)

The news is controlled by the city to show only what they don't mind the tourists seeing. If there was a murder, check the St Catherine’s standard, cause there wont be a mention of it in the Niagara Falls review. (the paper is given out for free at hotels, no one wants to see bad news on their vacation. Granted the residents of NF should know about these things, but..who cares about them?)

The city was run for almost 20 years by a man named Wayne Thomson, who had ties to several mobs. He repeatedly took bribes..im sorry, "Donations" from everyone from Hotel owners to American investors, and he’s STILL an alderman!

The downtown core has been destroyed and the city has done very little to revitalize it. Recently they gave artists free or discount rent on many of the vacant stores downtown.. artists! starving artists... not STORES that will turn a profit, not SHOPS that sell things....artists. smart move!

The city contains TWO casinos which bring in a major amount of money. They are both owned and operated by the OLG, some, SOME of the profits are placed back into Ontario, but very little placed into Niagara Falls itself.

The city has become over-dependant on tourism to the point that people have been moving away. There are 3 major job markets in Niagara falls. Tourism, fast food, and Home businesses. Just yesterday i visited the town, and in 2.5 blocks, I counted seven, SEVEN home businesses. (3 car lots, a pizza place, a bar/inn, an advertising paper and detailing on cars).

If you live there, you are a second rate citizen. There are parts of the city that still flood because of drainage issues but haven’t been settled because money goes to Clifton hill and table rock. Funding new attractions.

The hotels keep getting larger and larger, then our dollar goes up and OMG, LESS TOURISTS, we as a town better fall back on our other money maker…uh..uh..SH** we don’t have one!

The roads are being changed so that it forces people to go past the casinos. There is no theatres (there’s an amateur one made out of an old firehall) there is no symphony, no club scene , no convention centre (though they may, MAY build one soon..near the falls) there is no kind of stadium for any kind of sport.

The city is not for living, it is a theme park with permanent occupants, that’s all. A theme park, complete with waterpark and ferris wheel (both about a block from each other!)

Saying Canada is best represented by Niagara falls, is just saying the idiots who took this survey have never BEEN to Niagara Falls


Wow , that was a long one..sorry guys.. that city just sucks so much, and to Compare it to our country..not cool man, not cool



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Saying Canada is best represented by Niagara falls, is just saying the idiots who took this survey have never BEEN to Niagara Falls


Amen. Here's another thing, coming from someone who lives in N.F. Ont, as well as someone with basic observation and analytical skills (ie. that of a monkey). Niagara Falls does not represent Canada as far as Canadians are concerned. Niagara Falls represents what businesses and park agencies want tourists to see as Canada. In fact, I think we need to take a little tour.

If you're coming from the United States, you will likely cross over the Rainbow Bridge, which is just a few hundred metres from the Canadian Horseshoe Falls itself. Here is the skyline you will see: tall hotels, big casinos and bright lights. Little Vegas. As you pass through Canadian customs and the tall mast with the big Canadian flag, the first thing you will notice is a big Planet Hollywood, it's red sparkling lights and round dome set in its tacky pillars with capitals of fake palm hurting your brain as you come to grips with the fact that this is supposed to be another country. Wow, welcome to Canada!

If you go straight, Highway 420 can lead you to the QEW and as far away from the Falls as you could want (recommended).

If you go left, a strip of American stores and the usual Canadian souvenirs (that's right, all the stuffed-animal beavers in mountie dress, geniunue authentic Canadian maple syrup, and fake Aboriginal carvings money can buy). There's a painted statue of a cartoonish-mountie you can get your picture taken with. Farther up on the corner is the Marvel Megacity, the MGM something or other, and the WWE Piledriver amusement ride. The more you keep going on the left route, the closer you get to the actual falls - a natural and beautiful wonder, tainted by the looming Fallsview Casino, a Starbucks, and at some point a Wolfgang Puck. Try and catch a glimpse at the historic Loretta spiritual centre, which is being torn down later so the Sheraton Fallsview can have more parking space.

If you go right, you can take a lovely scenic route down the Niagara Parkway, a well-maintained and beautiful roadway with lush foliage, a golf course, botanical gardens, a butterfly conservatory, and several nature trails into the Niagara Gorge. However, on the way there, you'll see the sad streets of Downtown Niagara Falls, the most neglected, scummy, crime-ridden (granted it's per-capita), abandoned downtown I've ever seen, and I've been to Rochester, NY. Not far from that is a big souvenir depot, meant to look like an old log trading post. The eye is also treated to large statues of moose and mounties, beavers and other "authentic" Canadian marketing ploys.

The majority of tourists are American and as such Niagara Falls presents a watered-down version of Canada, in a sense selling the Canadian stereotype. It's not just a tour of the Falls: it's supposed to be a tour of an entire people itself, like a World Showcase nightmare from Epcot Centre. Probably the most perverse example of this is the Totem Pole Park, along the Niagara Parkway. For seven bucks, you can view a showcase of totem poles by Korean Frank Kim, who carves logs into the images of dutiful British generals (what an authentic Aboriginal image!), pseudo-tribal faces, and authentic native pop culture characters like Bart Simpson and Spongebob.

Ever wonder why a lot of the First Nations don't care much for white people?

The majority of Americans you will meet are friendly, though somewhat naive about our country. But the ones who are ignorant as fucks take ignorance to a form that can only be described as an art. Try not to burst a blood vessel when an American asks you if he's in Canada yet or if he comments on your infinitely amusing Mmonopoly money.

All jobs in Niagara Falls are in the service sector. This means the majority are low-paying. Most of the kids who go off to school don't come back because job opportunities for anything outside business is lacking. The higher-paying jobs are often filled on a who-you-know basis.

Also, Niagara Falls is terribly, terribly white and racism is still prevalent in varying degrees among all social classes.

The problem with a poll like this is also the same problem we have whenever Canada votes. It's why a lot of eastern and western provinces have considered seperation. The majority of Canadians live in Ontario and Quebec. Thefore, what the people of these to provinces usually vote for is usually what gets picked. And most of us are pretty ignorant of the rest of our country. Picking Niagara Falls couldn't have been a better example of that ignorance.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:08 pm
 


I think Niagara Falls is pretty.

The falls... I don't remember there being a town near them.



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:27 pm
 


The town surrounding the falls is like a mini Las Vegas almost, if you havn't been there in many years.. i think its changed A LOT.



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:29 pm
 


saturn_656 wrote:
kenmore wrote:
Trudeau was the best PM ever!


Thats a matter of opinion. His reckless spending is one of the major reasons why this country is in serious debt today. I can think of quite a few better PM's off the top of my head. Pearson, King, St. Laurent, Laurier...



Trudeau's spending was 30 years ago.. and Muldoon spent more anyway,
so if you want to blame someone, blame our good buddy cash-in-my-pocket Brian.


Like him or not, he was without a doubt the most famous :)



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:29 pm
 


I'm sure it has. My point was though... I don't think the town is what people see as a Canadian icon... it's the falls themselves.



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:33 pm
 


Like him or hate him Trudeau is our most famous PM, that alone makes him an icon.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:07 am
 


Yeah the great things he did for Canada, CHRC, POS Charter, Multi_crap and Abortion.

Yep he’s a winner all day long.



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