[Newsbot]

Title: Dion gung-ho on carbon tax
Category: Political
Posted By: mtbr
Date: 2008-06-27 07:53:50
Canadian

[mtbr]

Idiot..look not one negative word given by the star in the whole interview what a surprise.

[hurley_108]

Quit spamming, mtbrain.

[mtbr]

oh look Hurley starts the flaming again

[DerbyX]

Quote:

Tory attack on carbon tax is dishonest: economist

Updated Tue. Jun. 10 2008 12:00 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

A prominent resource economist has pronounced himself disgusted with "dishonest" Conservative attack ads on a Liberal carbon tax proposal that's yet to be unveiled.

"The Conservatives -- and I say this with great sadness because I don't care which political party is in power -- but if we're going to do anything about climate change, we're going to have to be honest with people," Marc Jaccard of Simon Fraser University told CTV.ca on Tuesday.

"This is just totally dishonest."

On the weekend, the Tories previewed ads aimed at the proposed carbon tax, painting it as Liberal Leader Stephane Dion's "tax on everything."

The ads are to start running Tuesday.

Jaccard, a co-author of the recent book Hot Air, said the Conservatives' own policy on reducing greenhouse gas emissions won't work because it doesn't put a price on carbon for consumers.

"Their policy is to regulate industry and then have these offset loopholes where industry can subsidize consumers. But those are the types of policies that have never worked in the past," he said.

The Conservatives have said their plan will cut Canada's greenhouse gas emissions by 20 per cent below 2006 levels by 2020. But many environmental groups join Jaccard in saying the plan won't work.

If it did work, the Conservative plan wouldn't see Canada's Kyoto Protocol target -- to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by six per cent below 1990 levels by 2012 -- achieved until 2025.

The Liberals are said to be proposing putting a tax on carbon. While the policy has yet to be released, the Grits have said it will be "tax shifting" and "revenue-neutral," meaning that any revenue collected would be given back in the form of income or other tax cuts.

In the House of Commons' question period on Monday, junior minister Jason Kenney accused the Liberals of engaging in a massive tax grab to pay for billions in unbudgeted election promises.

Dion said the ads are "misleading and a lie."

Honest dialogue

"I'm not a fan of Stephane Dion, but when you get a politician out there that's trying to start an honest dialogue and say to people, 'you know what? We won't get our emissions down if there isn't a price on them and that's just the truth'," Jaccard said.

"And to see politicians saying, 'Maybe I can stay in power' or gain more power, or maybe a majority government, by distorting this" disgusted him, he said.

"Every one of those ads should say, 'Oh and by the way, your income taxes are going down if (the Liberals) do put in that tax,' but it's not there."

The Liberals say their plan, unlike the Conservative one, offers offsetting tax cuts.

Dion has said the plan won't drive up prices at the gas pump, where high oil prices have driven gasoline prices up to record levels.

Some of the Tory ads were to run at gas pumps in Toronto and other parts of southern Ontario.

But Fuelcast, the company that operates the pump-side advertising network, said Monday it won't run the ads.

The Conservatives have said they have a binding contract with Fuelcast, but if the company doesn't honour the deal, they will up their radio buy instead.

[mtbr]

now that's some quality cut and paste spam Derby.

[ridenrain]

You can still smell the fresh coat of greenwash.

[DerbyX]

I know that truth is like kryptonite to you cons so its not wonder you are afraid of it.

Thats why the need to post multiple threads over and over again. If you tell a lie often enough you might get people to believe it.

Sorry about your luck over Gomery.

[mtbr]

DerbyX wrote:

I know that truth is like kryptonite to you cons so its not wonder you are afraid of it.

Thats why the need to post multiple threads over and over again. If you tell a lie often enough you might get people to believe it.

Sorry about your luck over Gomery.

more partisan crap

3 cut and pastes on each thread...i see you have yet to offer your opinion on the Carbon Tax Scam.


sorry for your luck you live in Ontario oil is 142 bucks a barrel ca ching ca ching...the Libs are still in the cheap seats.

[C.M. Burns]

mtbr wrote:

Idiot..look not one negative word given by the star in the whole interview what a surprise.

That might have somethnig to do with the subtitle on the article:
"Liberal leader, hinting at a possible fall election, defends his complex, environmentally friendly plan"

Doh!

[mtbr]

C.M. Burns wrote:

mtbr wrote:

Idiot..look not one negative word given by the star in the whole interview what a surprise.

That might have somethnig to do with the subtitle on the article:
"Liberal leader, hinting at a possible fall election, defends his complex, environmentally friendly plan"

Doh!

yeah just a free photo op provided by the star , I'm sure it will be a daily event.

[C.M. Burns]

mtbr wrote:

C.M. Burns wrote:

mtbr wrote:

Idiot..look not one negative word given by the star in the whole interview what a surprise.

That might have somethnig to do with the subtitle on the article:
"Liberal leader, hinting at a possible fall election, defends his complex, environmentally friendly plan"

Doh!

yeah just a free photo op provided by the star , I'm sure it will be a daily event.

Or maybe it has something to do to do with balance in journalism

[mtbr]

typical.. some Liberal put a can of spam on the front page but ignored the cut and paste job by Derby on all 3 threads.

you guys are pathetic partisan hypocrites.

[hurley_108]

mtbr wrote:

typical.. some Liberal put a can of spam on the front page but ignored the cut and paste job by Derby on all 3 threads.

you guys are pathetic partisan hypocrites.

[N_Fiddledog]

When I saw the title of this thread, the first thing I thought was "Who's Dion Gung Ho? Do even the Chinese know how bad this carbon tax flim flam sucks now?"

Then I figured it out, and I had to smile.