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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:00 am
 


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:55 pm
 


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An Atheist who denied there was a God dies and now a church wont let him be buried in their grave yard. Seems fitting to me. He denied in life and now is denied in death.

Soooo... Where would you bury him? or her, of course ;-)



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:57 pm
 


What about agnostics?....Oh ya right I want a funeral pyre and set out to sea...im all good :lol:



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:09 pm
 


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An Atheist who denied there was a God dies and now a church wont let him be buried in their grave yard. Seems fitting to me. He denied in life and now is denied in death.

Soooo... Where would you bury him? or her, of course ;-)


In a non-church-owned graveyard, of course.



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lily wrote:
Brenda wrote:
stratos wrote:
An Atheist who denied there was a God dies and now a church wont let him be buried in their grave yard. Seems fitting to me. He denied in life and now is denied in death.

Soooo... Where would you bury him? or her, of course ;-)


In a non-church-owned graveyard, of course.


That is not available in the town he/she wants to be buried in. Then what?

(I agree with you though, I wouldn't even want to be buried in a church-owned graveyard, I have no reason to be there, but if there is no other place, I guess I gotta have to live with it, eh? :twisted:)



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:15 pm
 


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That is not available in the town he/she wants to be buried in. Then what?
Then be cremated and scattered wherever the hell you like - being buried in the ground isn't a right or a need.

(or anything worth a news report, for that matter)



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I don't get why these people didn't notice there wasn't anywhere to bury their family member till after she was dead. Didn't she think to make arrangements ahead of time?

Living in an area doesn't give you a free pass into their cemetary just because it's there and so are you.

Forget the religious aspect. What if the only graveyard in town was a military graveyard or one set aside for cops?



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The way the article reads, it sounds like they were looking for a place before she died. All they could find in the local area was a Christian grave yard that wouldnt take her, so they had to go the next town over and she was buried with the Protestants.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:34 am
 


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The way the article reads, it sounds like they were looking for a place before she died. All they could find in the local area was a Christian grave yard that wouldnt take her, so they had to go the next town over and she was buried with the Protestants.
And?

They don't want a religious service, and the people that own the cemetary don't want an unreligious service - that's her problem (or her families), not the church's. Being buried wherever you want isn't a right.

This seems like a painfully obvious conclusion that's been pointed out several times - what exactly do you disagree with?



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Neo-pagan, traditional witch, new age freak.....they all burn the same :lol:

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Gunnair wrote:
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By the way, are you a witch? Because you certainly are beginning to sound like one of those off the shelf, book learned and childish neo-pagans with an axe to grind against organized religion.


Neo-pagan, traditional witch, new age freak.....they all burn the same :lol:


:lol: Done and done!

I suspect we'll all be in good company. Reminds me of the great Frantics skit that had St. Peter turning away the Catholic at the pearly gates because the only religion that had got it right was the Prebyterians.


*The Lounge of Hell in South Park*

Announcer: "Uh, Hi, I'd like to Welcome everyone to Hell... As you are probably wondering, the right religion was the Mormons."
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:01 am
 


lily wrote:
I don't get why these people didn't notice there wasn't anywhere to bury their family member till after she was dead. Didn't she think to make arrangements ahead of time?

Living in an area doesn't give you a free pass into their cemetary just because it's there and so are you.

Forget the religious aspect. What if the only graveyard in town was a military graveyard or one set aside for cops?
Well...

Like you said, people don't like to think much about death... :P

I'm not sure how many people just sit at a table one day clipping out ads for cheap funerals... My grandmother doesn't really have any plans at all, if there was no Non-Discriminatory graveyard in town, we'd kinda be screwed.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:04 am
 


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Forget the religious aspect. What if the only graveyard in town was a military graveyard or one set aside for cops?

Same thing.

If I was the mayor of the town and this issue rose, I'd either demand that they be able to get legally buried, or stop being a tool and build a damn non-discriminatory graveyard. It's not that hard, just buy a crop of land and a few creepy iron gates.

Honestly, how many towns are that unprepared? There can't be that many...



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:34 am
 


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Honestly, how many towns are that unprepared? There can't be that many...
Unprepared? People have been dying as long as there's been people. It's not that they're unprepared, the town (assuming you're talking about its council, for example) is simply not responsible for burying dead people.

Why is it the responsibility of someone else to ensure your dead body gets put in the ground? What makes burial a right?



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:37 pm
 


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Honestly, how many towns are that unprepared? There can't be that many...
Unprepared? People have been dying as long as there's been people. It's not that they're unprepared, the town (assuming you're talking about its council, for example) is simply not responsible for burying dead people.

Why is it the responsibility of someone else to ensure your dead body gets put in the ground? What makes burial a right?

I think it's an excellent way to make sure it looks like you actually give a shit...

Sure it's not a right, or a responsibility, but honestly... What the fuck? Are people not supposed to give a shit?



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