[OnTheIce]

poquas wrote:

"Several hundred in Halifax", "Over 3000 in Ottawa".

Get ready for the "that's all?" response from the nay sayers.

I guess Steve was wrong. They did notice and they do care.

And when this story dies out, and more people move on, on top of the 61% of Canadian that don't care, it'll be a non-issue.

When Layton brings forth a bill to abolish prorogation and Iggy waffles and backs away, it'll just backfire completely on the only competition the CPC has.

[Zipperfish]

OnTheIce wrote:

poquas wrote:

"Several hundred in Halifax", "Over 3000 in Ottawa".

Get ready for the "that's all?" response from the nay sayers.

I guess Steve was wrong. They did notice and they do care.

And when this story dies out, and more people move on, on top of the 61% of Canadian that don't care, it'll be a non-issue.

When Layton brings forth a bill to abolish prorogation and Iggy waffles and backs away, it'll just backfire completely on the only competition the CPC has.

"Methinks he doth protest too much."

Of course this will blow over and the next scandal or political event will come into the spotlight for a while. But the fact remains that this blew up in Harper's face in a way he didn't foresee and the strenuous protestations otherwise from the Conservative cheerleaders just underline this point.

[Bodah]

If the Senate worked the way its supposed to without partisan hackery, there would be no need for prorogation. When parties in the house vote on a bill and passes it, it's the job of the senate to make it happen, not stall it or molest it.

I dont think the Senate would pass a prorogation bill anyways.

[Curtman]

Bodah wrote:

If the Senate worked the way its supposed to without partisan hackery, there would be no need for prorogation. When parties in the house vote on a bill and passes it, it's the job of the senate to make it happen, not stall it or molest it.

What? The job of the senate is not to rubber stamp everything that comes from the House of Commons.

[OnTheIce]

Zipperfish wrote:

OnTheIce wrote:

poquas wrote:

"Several hundred in Halifax", "Over 3000 in Ottawa".

Get ready for the "that's all?" response from the nay sayers.

I guess Steve was wrong. They did notice and they do care.

And when this story dies out, and more people move on, on top of the 61% of Canadian that don't care, it'll be a non-issue.

When Layton brings forth a bill to abolish prorogation and Iggy waffles and backs away, it'll just backfire completely on the only competition the CPC has.

"Methinks he doth protest too much."

Of course this will blow over and the next scandal or political event will come into the spotlight for a while. But the fact remains that this blew up in Harper's face in a way he didn't foresee and the strenuous protestations otherwise from the Conservative cheerleaders just underline this point.

While I see your point, you are completely exaggerating the situation.

This didn't blow up in Harpers face. A miscalculation? Sure, but let's not make it out like some tragic blow to democracy that is really a tiny blip on the map of relevance.

[Bodah]

Curtman wrote:

Bodah wrote:

If the Senate worked the way its supposed to without partisan hackery, there would be no need for prorogation. When parties in the house vote on a bill and passes it, it's the job of the senate to make it happen, not stall it or molest it.

What? The job of the senate is not to rubber stamp everything that comes from the House of Commons.

Your one sexy beast, anyone ever told you that ?

[FieryVulpine]

Curtman wrote:

Bodah wrote:

If the Senate worked the way its supposed to without partisan hackery, there would be no need for prorogation. When parties in the house vote on a bill and passes it, it's the job of the senate to make it happen, not stall it or molest it.

What? The job of the senate is not to rubber stamp everything that comes from the House of Commons.

Unless it's from the Liberal Party of course.

[poquas]

This was certainly predictable.

"Not enough people." "A tempest in a teacup." "A Liberal conspiracy." "Nobody cares." "It'll all blow over."

Harper screwed the pooch on this one. The polls prove that and despite the partisan crap it’s a fact. Ignatieff and Layton certainly haven’t done anything to warrant an increase in support so what the hell do you think changed?

Time to man up. Supporting a jerk because he’s the leader of a party you’ve sworn some kind of illogical allegiance to and trying to defend his actions simply sucks the credibility out of any argument you still want to make.

I’m willing to accept part of the blame that put Harper in power, but after a lifetime of providing financial and electoral support for that party I’ve seen the light. As long as he’s in control I won’t support him. Come the next election, I’ll hold my nose and throw my support at anyone but the Conservative party now.

[PluggyRug]

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Get ready for the "that's all?" response from the nay sayers

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Ok here ya go.


More people turn up up at Wednesday night darts. Unlike the small gathering in the photo the darters use both left and right throws.

Is it true that the march only walked the left side of the street, as the right side is only used by those with common sense.

[tritium]

Proroguing is something Parliament is allowed to do. It isn't against democracy. It's in fact, part of the Canadian system of governance. They did it last year too.

Is it a douche move by Harper? Of course it is. But, Harper's a douche. So, that's not new.

Rick Mercer explains the Canadian Parliament LAST time it was prorogued.

[Bodah]

poquas wrote:

I’m willing to accept part of the blame that put Harper in power, but after a lifetime of providing financial and electoral support for that party I’ve seen the light. As long as he’s in control I won’t support him. Come the next election, I’ll hold my nose and throw my support at anyone but the Conservative party now.

How'd the circle jerk go today ?.... did ya get a wrap around at least ?

[Zipperfish]

OnTheIce wrote:

While I see your point, you are completely exaggerating the situation.

This didn't blow up in Harpers face. A miscalculation? Sure, but let's not make it out like some tragic blow to democracy that is really a tiny blip on the map of relevance.

I'm not one of those that think it's a "tragic blow to democracy." My main beef is that those guys are getting paid to do an important job, and they are basically taking two months off with pay. Coming from someone with a history of criticizing government for wasting money, I expect better.

[Akhenaten]

poquas wrote:

This was certainly predictable.

Not nearly as predictable as the turn out apparently.

[Lemmy]

Zipperfish wrote:

I'm not one of those that think it's a "tragic blow to democracy." My main beef is that those guys are getting paid to do an important job, and they are basically taking two months off with pay. Coming from someone with a history of criticizing government for wasting money, I expect better.

Well, I still say it's better for Canadians when politicians AREN'T working, but you make a compelling point.

[DoyleG]

Akhenaten wrote:

poquas wrote:

This was certainly predictable.

Not nearly as predictable as the turn out apparently.

Only 250 showed up in Edmonton. Less than who showed up to protest Bush's speech last fall.