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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:57 pm
 


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Hugo Chavez Net Worth: $1 Billion



Only ?

That was my initial reaction. If I was a corrupt head-of-state of the country with the world's largest oil reserves, I'd have at least ten times that much stashed away.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:06 pm
 


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http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/hugo-chavez-net-worth/



A site where you can "look up" how much money a "star" has in the bank?

Seriously? :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:10 pm
 


Confirmation Bias.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:30 pm
 


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Who is this: "Criminal Justice International Associates" This highly reputable site that Bart uses here is basing their info on this unknown company? agency? Who are they and where did they get their info.

"Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see." -Benjamin Franklin


The link was posted on Google News and I reposted it.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:36 pm
 


Still waiting for an answer to QBC's question....


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:54 pm
 


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Still waiting for an answer to QBC's question....


If you're really interested you'll go look it up yourself. I personally don't care as I've never heard of them.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:11 pm
 


Not my view on the subject, just found the pic funny...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:00 pm
 


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Not my view on the subject, just found the pic funny...


ROTFL too funny!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:12 pm
 


does this mean that Columbia can go back to being the neighbourhood bad boy


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:34 pm
 


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does this mean that Columbia can go back to being the neighbourhood bad boy


Colombia is pretty nice anymore and if Venezuela rejoins the civilized world then the last serious jerkwad down that way will be Evo Morales in Bolivia. Absent the economic and military support Morales was receiving via Chavez it's possible that Morales might calm down. I'd hope so as relations between Bolivia and Brazil have been pretty dicey for quite some time.

While the two nations have a vibrant trade relationship they've come close to the brink on a few occasions all of which have centered on Morales' attempts to nationalize Brazilian-owned industries and lands inside of Bolivia.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:51 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
fifeboy wrote:
Still waiting for an answer to QBC's question....


If you're really interested you'll go look it up yourself. I personally don't care as I've never heard of them.
But you still posted it. OK


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:00 pm
 


Hopefully they'll use Chavez's estate to fund the upcoming mausoleum.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:23 pm
 


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Hopefully they'll use Chavez's estate to fund the upcoming mausoleum.


More likely the new dictator will steal the estate and quietely execute Chavez's family. It's a tradition amongst Latin American dictators, you see. 8)


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Dyer nails it as usual:

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Venezuela never stopped being a democracy despite 14 years of Chavez’s rule. He didn’t seize power. He didn’t even rig elections, though he used the government’s money and privileged access to the media to good effect (Our Liberals are doing that in BC). He was elected president four times, the first three with increasing majorities—but the last time, in 2012, he fell back sharply, only defeating his rival by 54 percent to 44 percent.


Chavez was an unnecessarily combative and polarizing politician and a truly awful administrator, but he has actually achieved what he went into politics for. Twenty years ago Venezuelan politics was a corrupt game fought out between two factions of a narrow elite. Now the task of using the country’s oil wealth to improve the lives of the poor majority is central to all political debate in the country.

In last year’s election, the Venezuelan opposition parties managed to unite behind a single presidential candidate, Henrique Capriles, whose political platform was basically “Chavismo” without the demagoguery. In previous elections, the opposition had railed against Chavez’s “socialism” and Marxism, and lost by a wide margin. Capriles, by contrast, promised to retain most of Chavez’s social welfare policies, and lost very narrowly.

Over the past dozen years Chavez’s governments have poured almost $300 billion into improving literacy, extending high school education, creating a modern, universally accessible health-care system, build housing for the homeless, and subsidising household purchases from groceries to appliances. What made that possible was not “socialism”, but Venezuela’s huge oil revenues.

Capriles had to promise to maintain these policies because the poor—and most Venezuelans are still poor—won’t vote for a candidate who would end all that. He just said that he would spend that money more effectively, with less corruption, and a lot of people believed him. It would not be hard to be more efficient than Chavez’s slapdash administration.

Venezuela today has the fairest distribution of wealth in the Americas, with the obvious exception of Canada (Guess that's why people hate him so much). Venezuela’s “Gini coefficient”, which measures the wealth gap between the rich and the poor, is 0.39, whereas the United States is 0.45 and Brazil, even after 10 years of reforming left-wing governments, is still 0.52. (A lower score means less inequality of income.)

For all of Chavez’s ranting about class struggle and his admiration for Fidel Castro, this was not achieved in Venezuela by taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor. It was accomplished by spending the oil revenue differently. He changed the political psychology of the country, and it now has the potential to be a Saudi Arabia with democracy.

That is not a bad thing to be, and the Venezuelan opposition has finally grasped that fact. It remains for Chavez’s own party to understand that it has actually won the war, and to stop re-fighting the old battles. A spell in opposition might help it to come to terms with its proper role in the new Venezuelan political consensus: no longer an embattled “revolutionary” movement, but the more radical alternative in a more or less egalitarian democracy.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:50 am
 


What? Canada has a more equal distribution of wealth than Venezuela?

That says terrible things about Venezuela's distribution of wealth.


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