[ridenrain]

I'll bite on the 99 Queen st. What is it?

[Delwin]

It is the former site of a mental health facility in Toronto. When passing by, there were usually large crowds of "unusual" people gathered out front...

[lily]

I gather it's their version of Essendale, ridenrain.

[Motorcycleboy]

Quote:

Ridenrain Wrote:

I'll bite on 99 Queen St, what is it?

Delwin wrote:

It is the former site of a mental health facility in Toronto. When passing by, there were usually large crowds of "unusual" people gathered out front...

For the record Delwin, it was 999 Queen St, not 99. It was changed to 1001 Queen St when the mental-case lobby decided the original number had developed a stigma because of the notorious nature of that institution. (Don't ask me what to do when the number 1001 gets a stigma attached to it as it so surely will-that's for the looney left at Toronto City Council to figure out!)

And also for the record, it's not a "former site". The place is still there and it's still full of Parkdale's finest specimens.

[Delwin]

I stand corrected.

[ridenrain]

Was this an example of the Dion Liberals's new Get Tough on crime?

[Tricks]

necro

[hurley_108]

Tricks wrote:

necro

Nice catch. On yer bike, ridenhack.

[sasquatch2]

I understand, that in the US, that a felony conviction results in your loss of the right to vote....forever.

Actually the LIBRANOs are playing with fire giving the convicts a right to vote.....especially when they attempt to make prisons "smoke free".....inmates get very upset about that.

[hurley_108]

sasquatch2 wrote:

I understand, that in the US, that a felony conviction results in your loss of the right to vote....forever.

Actually the LIBRANOs are playing with fire giving the convicts a right to vote.....especially when they attempt to make prisons "smoke free".....inmates get very upset about that.

Each state has different rules, from Alabama where you'd be right, to Utah, where the everyone can vote even from prison.

http://www.hrw.org/reports98/vote/usvot98o.htm

What I find hard to stomach about this is that the prisoners are given a choice of where their ballot is cast. While this does dilute their influence somewhat, under our SMP (FPTP) system, where you vote is as important as how you vote, and it galls me to no end that a prisoner is three times more mobile than I in terms of where he casts his vote (because he has a choice of three places to vote, whereas I can only vote one place). They should be restricted to voting in the riding in which they were convicted.

[ridenrain]

hurley_108 wrote:

Tricks wrote:

necro

Nice catch. On yer bike, ridenhack.

Since time is a conditional thing for the left, I thought I'd dig up some old threads that highlighted you're "good old days"

Very little changed during the dark decade under the benevolent dictator, but in a brief 2 years, we've seen direct improvment. Clear direction from the Harper minority government.

Dion has nothing to say on crime.

[icndvl]

Voting is not a privilege, it is a right. Even people in prison are entitled to certain basic rights. Voting is a basic right for all Canadians reguardless of social or economic status. Voting is by its nature a non-selfish act, and it should be encouraged.

[sasquatch2]

A prison sentence on principle is a suspension of civil rights so why not suspension of the franchise as well?

Quote:

Shane Shoemaker, serving a life sentence for first-degree murder at Edmonton Institution,

"Most guys in prison feel like outcasts."

Which is logical because they are legal outcasts. That is the purpose of prisons.

[cheryl08]

It doesn't matter how much you want to bitch about it, each person is guaranteed certain rights, voting being one of them. They are entrenched in the constitution and therefore must be abided by any act that is passed.
The law is not biased, it doesn't matter if you're a law-abiding citizen or not, its a matter of equality, every citizen has the right to call the shots as to which party should be elected to represent their country. Just like charges against criminals are dropped due to charter challenges when police fail to follow procedure under the law.

Shit happens, stop complaining....this has nothing to do with personal opinion or political parties but the structure of Canadian law

Plus it doesn't matter if other laws come along to try and change it, the Supreme Court will jump all over it, its a charter infringement that cannot be justified under s.1 of the charter.
let it go.