[Knoss]

With increased school closures the greater burden of mill rates it appears that our current education system is in need of an overhaul. Here is what I propose.

1. One school board funded by PST responsible for licensing teachers and schools

2. Do not require licenses for supervision of students who are taught via distance education.

3. Eliminate school and health portion of land taxes

4. Privatize urban schools, create a crown corporation to manage rural schools

5. Issuing of education vouchers to all students except Status Indians living on reserve

This model I believe would give choice to urban school residents would allow rural parents to choose between local schools with combined classes even one room schools, as well as other school models such as boarding schools. In areas where rural schools are impractical parents and community players can create co-operative schools or schools can be run by local companies such as mines. By having rural public schools run by a crown corporation private persons and corporations are able to invest in schools. Although reserve schools are funded by the federal government reserves would have the option to purchase vouchers and aborigenal schools would be allowed to accept vouchers to educate non-aborigenal children.

[Knoss]

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the choice that vouchers offer can mean many things, from eliminating neighborhood residency as a condition for attending a public school to allowing groups of parents and teachers to form their own public schools

Martin Carnoy, World Bank

This is where vouchers could work great for rural people. Parents in a community of 100 people could send their children 100km to a public school send them to a private boarding school 500km away or get together and form a Co-op school ( see one room schools and distance education )

[OPP]

I'm not about to debate this. Sorry Knoss, but equality and social reforms will not ever be accomplished by corporate means.

[Knoss]

Well it not about equality so much as sufficient education and choice between several models each with thier own pros and cons.

[ShepherdsDog]

Yes, corporate means reward those who actually try harder, while the socialist way pounds everyone down to an equal level of mediocrity and poverty.

The one room, multiple grade approach could work well. With advances in telecommunications, students could be schooled via teleconferencing over the net. One generalist teacher could handle the majority of the teaching responsibilities while specialists (math, sciences, arts, music and such) could be handled through the distance education (video method). Several schools, over a large area, could be dealt with at once.

[OPP]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Yes, corporate means reward those who actually try harder, while the socialist way pounds everyone down to an equal level of mediocrity and poverty.

The one room, multiple grade approach could work well. With advances in telecommunications, students could be schooled via teleconferencing over the net. One generalist teacher could handle the majority of the teaching responsibilities while specialists (math, sciences, arts, music and such) could be handled through the distance education (video method). Several schools, over a large area, could be dealt with at once.

I C... Socialism rewards dumb behaviour? Socialists strive toward mediocraty? Socialists just want everyone to be as misserable as the ones on the bottom of the social scale?

It's the exact oposite!!! We want those on the bottom of the social scale to have the exact same oportunities as those on the top of the social scale. You just don't want to recognise that...

Sad and pathetic. You've been taught to despise people like me. People with communist leanings can't enter the U.S still!!! That's messed up. Land of the free?

[Knoss]

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The one room, multiple grade approach could work well. With advances in telecommunications, students could be schooled via teleconferencing over the net. One generalist teacher could handle the majority of the teaching responsibilities while specialists (math, sciences, arts, music and such) could be handled through the distance education (video method). Several schools, over a large area, could be dealt with at once

It is I was able to take Calculus 30 from Campbell in Regina from Rockglen with SCN able to communicate with teachers via phone, even sending exams via facsimile, and the final via mail.

[Knoss]

Why did the Social Democrats keep vouchers if they are so problematic?

[grainfedprairieboy]

OPP wrote:

It's the exact oposite!!! We want those on the bottom of the social scale to have the exact same oportunities as those on the top of the social scale. You just don't want to recognise that...

Problem is that you want that without earning or deserving it.

[OPP]

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

OPP wrote:

It's the exact oposite!!! We want those on the bottom of the social scale to have the exact same oportunities as those on the top of the social scale. You just don't want to recognise that...

Problem is that you want that without earning or deserving it.

How do you mean?

[grainfedprairieboy]

OPP wrote:

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

OPP wrote:

It's the exact oposite!!! We want those on the bottom of the social scale to have the exact same oportunities as those on the top of the social scale. You just don't want to recognise that...

Problem is that you want that without earning or deserving it.

How do you mean?

Something for nothing.

There is a culture of entitlement at the root of socialism.

[Knoss]

The futility of socialism aside the fact remains that the current school system was designed for a greater rural population and more local boards, if we are to go away from that model then let us go away completely and give parents freedom to choose what education should include and how far students are to travel.

[OPP]

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

OPP wrote:

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

OPP wrote:

It's the exact oposite!!! We want those on the bottom of the social scale to have the exact same oportunities as those on the top of the social scale. You just don't want to recognise that...

Problem is that you want that without earning or deserving it.

How do you mean?

Something for nothing.

There is a culture of entitlement at the root of socialism.

You'd have to be more specific than that.

[Knoss]

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Something for nothing.

There is a culture of entitlement at the root of socialism.

This is a big part of the problem there are still those who expect schools to not have divided grades, have sports, have full art, etc, and still be in areas where graduating classes are single digit if as low as 1. It is just not viable under the current model.

[OPP]

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

OPP wrote:

grainfedprairieboy wrote:

OPP wrote:

It's the exact oposite!!! We want those on the bottom of the social scale to have the exact same oportunities as those on the top of the social scale. You just don't want to recognise that...

Problem is that you want that without earning or deserving it.

How do you mean?

Something for nothing.

There is a culture of entitlement at the root of socialism.

It's hard isn't it. To put in words worhty of debate where your hate is.