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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:33 pm
No real big surprise. Saskatchewan Party leading in 45, NDP in 11.
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Thanos
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:50 pm
50 SP and 9 NDP now. Broten may lose in his own riding. There's still talk that Wall may go federal as he's a fiscal conservative, not a social conservative.
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:47 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: 50 SP and 9 NDP now. Broten may lose in his own riding. There's still talk that Wall may go federal as he's a fiscal conservative, not a social conservative. It'd be good for the country if he chased the Federal Conservative leadership position, but I don't see it happening.
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:49 pm
I guess the voters looked over at Alberta and said "Yeah...uh...no thanks."
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Thanos
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:32 pm
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind: ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: 50 SP and 9 NDP now. Broten may lose in his own riding. There's still talk that Wall may go federal as he's a fiscal conservative, not a social conservative. It'd be good for the country if he chased the Federal Conservative leadership position, but I don't see it happening. If he can't speak French then there's no point in even trying. Maybe Maxime Bernier is recovered enough from his adventures with the big boobed biker gal to take a shot at the leadership.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:26 am
I'm glad they turfed those deficit spenders in favour of good, balanced budget conservatives that . . .what? . . . oh, nevermind.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:12 am
I think SK voters took a look at how the province to the left and to the right and simply decided NDP polices were just not worth it. It is hard to compare the economies of Alberta and Saskatchewan. Alberta is so dependent on a single resource while SK's is more diverse. Sure we are hurting because of lower oil prices but we haven't taken the massive hit that Alberta did. I think Albertans voted for change for the sake of change.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:38 am
Manitoba is likely to follow suit. Selinger just hasn't got the charisma that Doer had. They are polling really poorly, and I think Greg is rated the least popular premier in the country.
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Thanos
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:49 am
Nah, the Alberta vote was a rage reaction. At least it was for me. In the middle of losing my house I got told by Jim Prentice that it was all my fault for wanting luxury items like paved roads, an education system, and a half-assed medical system to take care of my mom. And, even though I never voted for the evil twat or her party, that Redfraud's skypalace and lucrative contracts to her ex-husband's law firm to sue the tobacco companies was also all my fault too.
I don't expect that the Alberta Dippers will have accomplished much when it's all over. It's not their policies it's that they seem kind of rudderless. They didn't expect to get elected and a year later they still don't know what the hell to do. That being said though at least they did one thing right and that was to not play Austerity Hero during what's going to turn out to be AB's worst economic collapse ever. If Prentice had won he would have laid off about thirty or forty thousand government employees and cut back on every single program he could have. The libertarian kind of jackasses, like the dicks that write columns for the SUN, would have applauded him. On the ground though it would have only succeeded in making things that much more miserable for more people than the ones that have already been clobbered by the oil price. It's factual and historical proof, going all the way back to what Britain began to do at the end of World War Two, that cutbacks and layoffs in a recession end up making that economic downtrend that much worse, not better. Most don't see it but it's true. It's one of those inconvenient details that gets drowned out by the incessant ideological bickering and posing between the left and the right. Maybe the NDP didn't do it deliberately, because non-layoffs has always been their policy anyway. But, accidentally or otherwise, they ended up doing the right thing anyhow.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:00 am
Things can't be too bad in Ottawa then, as the pigs in parliament voted themselves another raise.$1: The wage hike of 1.8 per cent for MPs and 2.1 per cent for senators is about four times what the federal government has offered public sector unions and executives in the federal public service.
The 338 MPs will see their salaries rise to $170,400 from $167,400, while Trudeau — who gets another $170,400 as PM — now will make $340,800, an increase of $6,000.
Cabinet ministers, interim Opposition leader Rona Ambrose and House Speaker Geoff Regan (who get an extra $81,500 for their roles) will get a $4,400 bump to $251,900.
Senators, who by federal law are required to be paid $25,000 less than MPs, will make $145,400, up from $142,400.
It may not sound like much but the visuals aren't good. This was a really poor decision.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:11 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: It may not sound like much but the visuals aren't good. This was a really poor decision. (just shakes his head, meets the new boss . . .)
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Thanos
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:31 am
This is why George Carlin was right. If you don't vote you don't have to take any of the blame for what the filthy greedy bastards get up to. Enough of the hagiography and artificial nobility of "the people" while we're at it. These politicians don't come pre-disposed towards corrupt from a factory that's given them some kind of default setting. They come from the upper ranks of lawyers and other well-connected toolbags that know in advance how to game the system in their own favour. If the people reward them with election, then re-election, then the great and glorious people deserve what they fucking get. Not to lose their jobs or homes but holy fuck, don't play innocent when there's multiple decades, if not centuries, of undisguised and unhidden examples of what the entire political class from all of the parties is all about. Grow up, ditch the our-guy vs. their-guy nonsense like you've wrapped yourself in some kind of cloak of honour, and quit lying to yourselves already. 
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:41 am
Thanos Thanos: Grow up, ditch the our-guy vs. their-guy nonsense like you've wrapped yourself in some kind of cloak of honour, and quit lying to yourselves already. Yeah, good luck with that.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:49 am
I wonder how well Trump will do in Sask. 
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