RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Saudi authorities have executed a woman convicted of practicing magic and sorcery.
The Saudi Interior Ministry says in a statement the execution took place Monday, but gave no details on the woman's crime.
The London-based al-Hayat daily, however, quoted Abdullah al-Mohsen, chief of the religious police who arrested the woman, as saying she had tricked people into thinking she could treat illnesses, charging them $800 per session.
The paper said a female investigator followed up, and the woman was arrested in April, 2009, and later convicted in a Saudi court.
It did not give the woman's name, but said she was in her 60s.
The execution brings the total to 76 this year in Saudi Arabia, according to an Associated Press count. At least three have been women.
Remind me again why Western culture is no better than this bunch of 7th Century troglodytes?
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Saudi authorities have executed a woman convicted of practicing magic and sorcery.
The Saudi Interior Ministry says in a statement the execution took place Monday, but gave no details on the woman's crime.
The London-based al-Hayat daily, however, quoted Abdullah al-Mohsen, chief of the religious police who arrested the woman, as saying she had tricked people into thinking she could treat illnesses, charging them $800 per session.
The paper said a female investigator followed up, and the woman was arrested in April, 2009, and later convicted in a Saudi court.
It did not give the woman's name, but said she was in her 60s.
The execution brings the total to 76 this year in Saudi Arabia, according to an Associated Press count. At least three have been women.
Remind me again why Western culture is no better than this bunch of 7th Century troglodytes?
When was the last time Saudi Arabia invaded another country hoping to push their own system on them?
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Saudi authorities have executed a woman convicted of practicing magic and sorcery.
The Saudi Interior Ministry says in a statement the execution took place Monday, but gave no details on the woman's crime.
The London-based al-Hayat daily, however, quoted Abdullah al-Mohsen, chief of the religious police who arrested the woman, as saying she had tricked people into thinking she could treat illnesses, charging them $800 per session.
The paper said a female investigator followed up, and the woman was arrested in April, 2009, and later convicted in a Saudi court.
It did not give the woman's name, but said she was in her 60s.
The execution brings the total to 76 this year in Saudi Arabia, according to an Associated Press count. At least three have been women.
Remind me again why Western culture is no better than this bunch of 7th Century troglodytes?
You're for the death penalty, Bart. What's your problem here? She was running a con and paid the ultimate price. She'll never cheat anybody again - isn't that the argument?
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:16 am
jeff744 wrote:
When was the last time Saudi Arabia invaded another country hoping to push their own system on them?
1973 in the Yom Kippur War.
I would also like to say that this is actually a nation with no separation of religion and state, in case anyone was curious.
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:17 am
DanSC wrote:
jeff744 wrote:
When was the last time Saudi Arabia invaded another country hoping to push their own system on them?
1973 in the Yom Kippur War.
I would also like to say that this is actually a nation with no separation of religion and state, in case anyone was curious.
And in comparison how many nations of the world have been fucked up on the whims of western nations?
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:18 am
jeff744 wrote:
DanSC wrote:
jeff744 wrote:
When was the last time Saudi Arabia invaded another country hoping to push their own system on them?
1973 in the Yom Kippur War.
I would also like to say that this is actually a nation with no separation of religion and state, in case anyone was curious.
And in comparison how many nations of the world have been fucked up on the whims of western nations?
Many, especially the Native nations of the USA and Canada.
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Saudi authorities have executed a woman convicted of practicing magic and sorcery.
The Saudi Interior Ministry says in a statement the execution took place Monday, but gave no details on the woman's crime.
The London-based al-Hayat daily, however, quoted Abdullah al-Mohsen, chief of the religious police who arrested the woman, as saying she had tricked people into thinking she could treat illnesses, charging them $800 per session.
The paper said a female investigator followed up, and the woman was arrested in April, 2009, and later convicted in a Saudi court.
It did not give the woman's name, but said she was in her 60s.
The execution brings the total to 76 this year in Saudi Arabia, according to an Associated Press count. At least three have been women.
Remind me again why Western culture is no better than this bunch of 7th Century troglodytes?
You're for the death penalty, Bart. What's your problem here? She was running a con and paid the ultimate price. She'll never cheat anybody again - isn't that the argument?
Not Bart, but as another American my issue is the crime in question. Executions should be for things like murder, treason, and rape, not theft. Granted, I'm not sure where I stand on the death penalty, but I do know that I don't believe it should be applied to theft. I also believe that an execution for sorcery is absolutely stupid. She should have been charged with theft or fraud, not using magic.
jeff744
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:22 am
DanSC wrote:
Many, especially the Native nations of the USA and Canada.
And that is why we are not so different after all.
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:23 am
The real question is: Why do so many American "Conservatives" keep pushing their Nation towards such a system?
DanSC
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:24 am
jeff744 wrote:
DanSC wrote:
Many, especially the Native nations of the USA and Canada.
And that is why we are not so different after all.
Then I shouldn't expect you to be all preachy from your pedestal to Bart then, right?
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sandorski wrote:
The real question is: Why do so many American "Conservatives" keep pushing their Nation towards such a system?
Only a few. Despite the rhetoric, if a political party actually tried to make this an evangelical Christian nation, they'd get a full blown rebellion on their hands.
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Saudi authorities have executed a woman convicted of practicing magic and sorcery.
The Saudi Interior Ministry says in a statement the execution took place Monday, but gave no details on the woman's crime.
The London-based al-Hayat daily, however, quoted Abdullah al-Mohsen, chief of the religious police who arrested the woman, as saying she had tricked people into thinking she could treat illnesses, charging them $800 per session.
The paper said a female investigator followed up, and the woman was arrested in April, 2009, and later convicted in a Saudi court.
It did not give the woman's name, but said she was in her 60s.
The execution brings the total to 76 this year in Saudi Arabia, according to an Associated Press count. At least three have been women.
Remind me again why Western culture is no better than this bunch of 7th Century troglodytes?
In general, it is better, but given that a couple Western states (like the USA & Japan) still have the death penalty too, we're not all that further ahead in this regard.
IMHO, the only difference in this regard is that they execute 'witches' and rape victims, while in the US, people can be put to death based on eyewitness accounts, even if its recanted after the trial.
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Public support grew for Davis based on the recanted testimony of seven witnesses from his trial and the possible confession of another suspect, which his defense team claimed cast too much doubt on Davis' guilt to follow through with an execution.
Either way, I don't see any logic for Americans claiming any sort of moral high ground when this crap like that happens...
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:30 am
DanSC wrote:
jeff744 wrote:
DanSC wrote:
Many, especially the Native nations of the USA and Canada.
And that is why we are not so different after all.
Then I shouldn't expect you to be all preachy from your pedestal to Bart then, right?
I am just mad he tried to act superior to people that act just as barbaric as the west does, the west is just better with propaganda. I don't like the death sentence, period. I also don't think nations have any right to interfere in the affairs of another nation without the permission of the people in the nations that would be interfered with.
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Double post...
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Not Bart, but as another American my issue is the crime in question. Executions should be for things like murder, treason, and rape, not theft. Granted, I'm not sure where I stand on the death penalty, but I do know that I don't believe it should be applied to theft. I also believe that an execution for sorcery is absolutely stupid. She should have been charged with theft or fraud, not using magic.
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