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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:36 pm
 


This is a transcript from the Rush Limbaugh radio show today.

No, I generally don't pay this guy much mind. But on the heels of Obama's Friday night speech demanding decorum from the Republicans and deminding civility in the debate over the debt Limbaugh makes some valid observations.

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RUSH: So this Politico piece. Maybe it's an opinion piece. I said it was a news story, because it's bylined. But it may well be a column. The headline is "The Tea Party's Terrorist Tactics." Before I get to this, let me show you what a coordinated thing this is. We have a media montage of Democrats (no media in here) talking about the Tea Party. Listen.

STENY HOYER: (rotunda noise) The Republicans are holding hostage the credit of the United States of America.

DEBBIE "BLABBERMOUTH" SCHULTZ: ...our Republican colleagues to hold our economy hostage.

DINGY HARRY: The Republican Party is holding our economy hostage.

CHUCK-U SCHUMER: (rotunda noise) It didn't say, "Hold America hostage."

LOUISE SLAUGHTER: ...hold the debt ceiling hostage.

SHELDON WHITEHOUSE: One party is holding the country hostage.

JOHN OLVER: The debt limit has never before been held hostage.

BARBARA LEE: Republicans are holding our economy hostage.

EARL BLUMENAUER: ...willing to take hostage the debt ceiling.

JASON ALTMIRE: Stop holding America's credit rating hostage.

ROSA DeLAURO: The Republican majority continues to hold the American economy hostage.

CHRIS VAN HOLLEN: Let's not hold the entire American economy hostage.

JOHN LARSON: ...ideological HOSTAGE situation...

LLOYD DOGGETT: The only belt they're really tightening is right around the neck of those hostages.

JAMES CLYBURN: Holding the American economy hostage.

JESSE JACKSON, JR.: This President is being treated differently!

SPEAKER PRO-TEM: (gavel banging)

JACKSON: No other President has been stuck up, shook down, or held hostage!

RUSH: That's the Reverend Jackson, Jr. there bringing up the end. I don't know what he means, "No other president has been stuck up, shook down, or held hostage!" Now we come to this Politico terrorist piece: "The Tea Party's Terrorist Tactics -- It has become commonplace to call the Tea Party faction in the House 'hostage takers.' But they have now become full-blown terrorists. They have joined the villains of American history who have been sufficiently craven to inflict massive harm on innocent victims to achieve their political goals." This is William Yeomans writing. Mr. Yeomans, what in the name of Sam Hill do you think Barack Obama is?

You want to talk about the real villain in this country? It's Barack Obama! Craven, "sufficiently craven to inflict massive harm on innocent victims to achieve their political goals"? What do you call a 1.3% growth rate this quarter, a 0.4% growth rate in the first quarter, and 9.2% unemployment? What do you call that? You call that the architecture of a craven villain, Mr. Yeomans -- and the people you're calling terrorists are trying to stop it and save the country. That's what this is about. This is about saving the country, it's about preserving liberty -- and I don't care how corny that sounds. It is exactly what's going on. "A strong America has always stood firm in the face of terrorism. That tradition is in jeopardy, as Congress and President Barack careen toward an uncertain outcome in the Tea Party-manufactured debt crisis."

Tea Party-manufactured debt crisis? The Tea Party has been in office for all of six months! I don't want to hear any more crap from Democrats about "civility." I don't want to be preached to one more time by these holier-than-thou, better-than-everybody-else, smarter-than-everybody-else craven villains about "civility." I have to tell you, folks (and I know that I am not alone): I am mad as all get out. The Democrats and their cohorts and the Drive-Bys have collectively ratcheted up this divisive, uncivil, reactionary language to trash the Tea Party -- and, by extension, conservatives. We're not terrorists! We're not killing people. We are Americans who disagree with you! We're Americans who disagree with statism. We are Americans who disagree with socialism, communism and liberalism.

We're not holding anybody hostage. We are the hostages! We are equal time. We are paying the ransom all the time. We are the hostages. Our country has been kidnapped, and you're asking a ransom from us in the form of higher taxes and less liberty and less freedom each and every day -- and you dare to write pieces calling us terrorists! We don't fly jet planes into buildings. We're not killing people. We're not putting people out of work. We're not taking their money. We're not destroying their savings. We're not taking over the oil companies. We're not taking over the car companies. We are not the ones in the process of destroying the U.S. healthcare system.

We're not the ones setting up death panels, if you want to talk about terrorism and killing people. Mr. Yeomans says, "As we stumble closer to Aug. 2, it has become clear that many in the Tea Party are willing to inflict massive harm on the American people to obtain their political objective of a severely shrunken federal government." A "severely shrunken federal government" is a pipe dream! We are trying right now to stop the inexorable growth of this monster that is strangling and squandering every asset in this country, including its people. Mr. Yeomans writes, "Their persistence in rejecting compromise, even as the economic effects of the phony crisis they have created mount, has taken their radicalism beyond tough negotiating, beyond even hostage-taking. ...

"As the markets dropped, families would watch their retirement and education savings and their dreams disappear. Rather than reject the unthinkable, the Tea Party harnessed this potential harm as its weapon of mass destruction." Oh, we're the ones? We're the ones destroying our own retirement and the education savings. We're the ones doing that? We're the ones? I think that's Barack Obama. You want to talk about craven villains? Look no further than the Oval Office. I guess Mr. Yeomans didn't get that memo after the Gabby Gifford service about the "new civility." So now anybody who disagrees with Democrats are terrorists, racists terrorists.

What is this American economy that's being held hostage? Isn't it us? It's our money. It's not Mr. Obama's money, Mr. Yeomans! The liberals do not own the wealth of this country. It's not theirs to distribute and redistribute. "Rather than reject the unthinkable, the Tea Party harnessed this potential harm as its weapon of mass destruction." Weapon of mass destruction. So, folks, they are cracking up. The left is cracking up, and it's the Tea Party doing it to them. We are now all Sarah Palin. As far as they're concerned, we are all Sarah Palin. They are scared to death of Sarah Palin. They are scared to death here of the Tea Party people, because the Tea Party in the House can't be bought and is not concerned about re-election. They're not playing the usual game.

Somebody tell me now why are we supposed to compromise with this? We're supposed to compromise with people of the same mind as William Yeomans at Politico? That's what we're supposed to do? This is the name of the game? We compromise with this so that we don't get blamed? We're going to get blamed no matter what happens! Even if wonderful, great things happen we're going to get blamed as it's rewritten and described as terrible. We want to hold onto some of our money. For that we're called terrorists. We oppose tax increases because we know that tax increases are not going to fix what's wrong with the country.

Taking more of our money is not the solution here. It ain't going to happen. Here's Obama lecturing us in Arizona after Giffords: "At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized, at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do," he said, "it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not in the way that wounds." Mr. Yeomans and the people at Politico, apparently, didn't get that, didn't hear that, or don't want to act on it. No. The truth is, Obama didn't mean it in the first place. Craven villains? Their language. That's who we're up against.

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RUSH: By the way, speaking of civility, ladies and gentlemen, Obama has just sent around to his foot soldiers the tweet handles for House Republican members on Twitter so they can stalk and harass them. So Obama's campaign is sending tweets out to the Republicans in the House. Boehner's doing the same thing. The Republican leadership is also tweeting. Obama's out there asking for phone calls. You and I know that you're the ones that are melting the phone lines.

Yesterday in the New York Times, I'm not sure when this happened, but to carry on the theme Nicholas Kristof compared the Tea Party sympathizers in Congress to al-Qaeda, and Thomas "Loopy" Friedman called the Tea Party sympathizers the Hezbollah faction in the GOP. I kid you not. In the Politico we're craven villains and terrorists. So some questions here for Nicholas Kristof and Thomas "Loopy" Friedman, is the Paul Ryan plan more like al-Qaeda or Hezbollah? Is Cut, Cap and Balance more like al-Qaeda or Hezbollah? Are you more like al-Qaeda or Hezbollah, or are you more like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Tell me, I don't know. You give me the similarities. The Paul Ryan plan Cut, Cap and Balance, the Balanced Budget Amendment plan, tell me, is it more like al-Qaeda or Hezbollah?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:08 pm
 


Limbaugh calling Democrats and the president uncivil? That's rich coming from the guy who never misses an opportunity to racially slur Obama or anyone else for that matter.

I should imagine things are getting ugly; your country is 5 days away from defaulting on its debts and having its credit rating downgraded and it is all because the Teahiadist members of the GOP congress are so fucking stupid and so fucking obstinate that they are risking economic hara-kiri on the alter of ideology.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:36 pm
 


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Limbaugh calling Democrats and the president uncivil? That's rich coming from the guy who never misses an opportunity to racially slur Obama or anyone else for that matter.

I should imagine things are getting ugly; your country is 5 days away from defaulting on its debts and having its credit rating downgraded and it is all because the Teahiadist members of the GOP congress are so fucking stupid and so fucking obstinate that they are risking economic hara-kiri on the alter of ideology.

The Democrats and Obama are not ? From what I see, it's the other way around: Obama and the Democrats are 'fucking obstinate' to have the debt ceiling high enough to get past the next elections. That's just political for his reelection.

The solution is easy: pass a bill to resolve the crisis in time and THEN negociate a long term deal. The crisis here is about time.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:49 pm
 


Just to be more precise, my post was just to point that you can't only blame the Republicans. The two sides are playing bad politics. The difference is that one side is about ideology while the other is about reelection. Personally, I think standing for an ideology is less worse than for political reasons.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:11 pm
 


Actually you can only blame the Republicans. Obama and the Democrats have willingly offered cuts to Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security along with other massive spending cuts, the GOP said no. Then they offered the same deal with no tax increases or loophole closures, and they still refused.

The fact is that the Tea Party wing of the GOP would rather commit economic hara-kiri than negotiate in good faith.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:52 am
 


There shouldn't be a limit in the first place. Secondly, it is the Republicans insisting on conflating the issues of Debt Ceiling and Deficit Reduction.

It is clearly a form of Blackmail.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:02 am
 


The Democrats & Republicans do not have what's best for the United States at heart because they're only thinking about next years election..


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:17 am
 


BRAH wrote:
The Democrats & Republicans do not have what's best for the United States at heart because they're only thinking about next years election..

The Tea Party faction of the GOP clearly stated they do not care about reelection. They were elected over an ideology and they will stick to it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:23 am
 


I can't see Obama not using the 17th amendment at this point. The senate is held hostage by filibuster and the house is held in control by an incompetent who can even pass his own bills.

Last ten years spending has gone thru the roof by two wars on the credit card, massive payoff to the pharmaceutical industry and enormous tax cuts. Now the GOP wants a plan for all the spending they did... amazing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:31 am
 


You mean 14th right? Thing is, he says he won't. IMO, he s=needs to start acting like the Commie Fascist the GOP has been calling him for 3 years now. It would be political suicide, but it would be good for the country.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:58 am
 


14th, correct.

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IMO, he s=needs to start acting like the Commie Fascist the GOP has been calling him for 3 years now. It would be political suicide, but it would be good for the country.



That is the only plan of the GOP is to force Obama to be a hardass so they can then play to the base that he is indeed the anti-Christ.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:00 pm
 


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I can't see Obama not using the 17th amendment at this point. The senate is held hostage by filibuster and the house is held in control by an incompetent who can even pass his own bills.

Last ten years spending has gone thru the roof by two wars on the credit card, massive payoff to the pharmaceutical industry and enormous tax cuts. Now the GOP wants a plan for all the spending they did... amazing.

The elected GOP is not at all the same than 10 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:07 pm
 


No it is a party in ruin because they let the camel in the tent. The new American century nonsense that hijacked the GOP also made it possible for the tea party to make inroads and have taken the party hostage from within. Now the party is virtually ungovernable and there is no way to strike up a bargain with them. It is an all or nothing gambit with them and this game of chicken they are playing is going to ruin us all.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:10 pm
 


The funny thing is, that the debt ceiling has been raised 74 times before since 1962 (or so I read somewhere). Today, I heard a senator say that a 60 voter gap in the house has never been a problem under Reagan, or Bush, or anyone, and now with Obama, it is a problem. I dunno, but methinks this is all one big plot to not get Obama re-elected next year, and Boehner is VERY willing to make that happen. NOTHING will ever be good enough, and Obama will pay.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:20 pm
 


Scape wrote:
No it is a party in ruin because they let the camel in the tent. The new American century nonsense that hijacked the GOP also made it possible for the tea party to make inroads and have taken the party hostage from within. Now the party is virtually ungovernable and there is no way to strike up a bargain with them. It is an all or nothing gambit with them and this game of chicken they are playing is going to ruin us all.

An interesting point of view I've read some days ago says that it may be the beginning of a change of the biparty political system of the US. That the two Old Establishment Parties are getting so disconnected that they will crumble and new ones will surface: a real Tea Party 'Party' and a real Social-Democrat Party. Those parties would be more about ideas than politics like the Dems and the GOP.

I'm very reserved to that and I think it's virtually impossible but who knows. It is happening here in Quebec and in a lesser way, at the federal level.


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