[Doug_McKenzie]

My company produces phone systems for contest lines and what not. We do several for Canadian companies including Molson. Each time we do a contest line there is always a stipulation that the winner must first answer correctly a math question.

What the hell is up with that? Is that Canadian law or something? Stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Anyone know?

[Doug_McKenzie]

Anyone?

[AdamNF]

I guess we don't like the idea of dumbass's getting a free ride.

[Doug_McKenzie]

AdamNF wrote:

I guess we don't like the idea of dumbass's getting a free ride.

I guess that's why thousands of dumbasses get free health care each day in Canada...right?

[AdamNF]

Healthcare is an essential service, its for everyone not just the wealthy.

[logansowner]

Doug_McKenzie wrote:

AdamNF wrote:

I guess we don't like the idea of dumbass's getting a free ride.

I guess that's why thousands of dumbasses get free health care each day in Canada...right?

Do you have something against Canada? Because last tiem I checked, this site was Canada Kicks Ass, not Americans board to Make fun of Canada. If you can't contribute more then anti Canadian crap, then why not leave?

[GWN_Ronnie]

LOL, more people frustrated with Adam, what a surprise.

About the math thing.
In Canada you can't 'give' something away. Like in a contest.
I can't remember why this was made into law, something about bribes I think.

Anyway to get around this companies that want to run a contest just ask a simple 'skill testing' question. When the person answers right technically they aren't being given something for nothing.

I'm sure it's a little more complicated then this, and I don't know all the details as you can tell. But essentially you can't give stuff away for free in Canada, people have to earn it.

[Doug_McKenzie]

GWN_Ronnie wrote:

LOL, more people frustrated with Adam, what a surprise.

About the math thing.
In Canada you can't 'give' something away. Like in a contest.
I can't remember why this was made into law, something about bribes I think.

Anyway to get around this companies that want to run a contest just ask a simple 'skill testing' question. When the person answers right technically they aren't being given something for nothing.

I'm sure it's a little more complicated then this, and I don't know all the details as you can tell. But essentially you can't give stuff away for free in Canada, people have to earn it.

Finally...a great answer. Thanks!

It still sounds like a silly law to me. The US has anti-bribery laws as well, but we can still give away promotional items without any hassle. There's a huge difference between giving a politician a new car and giving away free sodas or concert tickets. Why can't Canada recognize that? Weird.

[AdamNF]

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The US has anti-bribery laws as well, but we can still give away promotional items without any hassle. There's a huge difference between giving a politician a new car and giving away free sodas or concert tickets. Why can't Canada recognize that? Weird.

What? Bribery is totally legal in the USA. Companies pay off political parties all the time. Corporations donate millions of dollar to BOTH the democratic and republican parties. The same companies are giving to both parties, that is legalized bribery. Whenever there is a big case against big tobacco do you notice that the congressmen that who sit on the opposite sides of these cases, and try to stop them from ever going to court are the ones who have taken camping contributions from big Tobacco. The USA is the most legally corrupt country in the world.

[Doug_McKenzie]

AdamNF wrote:

What? Bribery is totally legal in the USA. Companies pay off political parties all the time. Corporations donate millions of dollar to BOTH the democratic and republican parties. The same companies are giving to both parties, that is legalized bribery. Whenever there is a big case against big tobacco do you notice that the congressmen that who sit on the opposite sides of these cases, and try to stop them from ever going to court are the ones who have taken camping contributions from big Tobacco. The USA is the most legally corrupt country in the world.

While I find corporate America's grip on some politicians to be disturbing, there is a HUGE difference between compaign donations and bribery. Bribery is a sure thing. I give you x amount of dollars and you vote yes on bill 1234. Campaign donations have no sure things. The vast majority of campaign donations in America is from John Q Taxpayer. Most donations are under $1,000 US ($8,000,000 Canadian). Are there any BS rumors about America that you Canooks don't swallow? Please know what you are talking about before submitting any further communications.

Take Maryland as an example: You will notice that over twice as much money is contributed by individuals than by corporations. Americans are very passionate about politics, and we have lots of money to throw at it.

Maryland Campaign Finance Statistics

[AdamNF]

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there is a HUGE difference between compaign donations and bribery

There is NO diffrence.

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Most donations are under $1,000 US

To candidates maybe, ever here of soft money. Compaines can donate 100, 200, 500 thousand dollars to the democratic party, and then they will send it right up to a particiualr candidate. Bribery!

[Doug_McKenzie]

AdamNF wrote:

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there is a HUGE difference between compaign donations and bribery

There is NO diffrence.

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Most donations are under $1,000 US

To candidates maybe, ever here of soft money. Compaines can donate 100, 200, 500 thousand dollars to the democratic party, and then they will send it right up to a particiualr candidate. Bribery!

That is simply not that big of an issue. Campaign donations to candidates far outweigh soft money donations.

http://www.politicalmoneyline.com/cgi-w ... =&sYR=2004

If you can come at me with some facts, please do. You sound like you try to pay attention, but you're paying attention to people who hate America and spew ignorant propaganda about America...and you buy it. News flash....my vote does count and Halliburton is not the devil!

[GWN_Ronnie]

First off Doug....don't take Adam's opinion as every ones opinion. Also good luck trying to get him to show facts.......he rarely does

In regards to the states being corrupt, I would have to agree with Adam slightly. Companies do give millions to both parties and they usually get it back in new contracts or through some laws.

Look at Bush and the steel tariffs fiasco. The WTO was telling him that the tariffs steel were illegal. Bush in the mean time seemed to be delaying any talks to overcome the issue. During this Bush was in the steal capital of the United States, Pittsburgh. He was getting millions of dollars form the steel companies who were making more money everyday Bush decided to leave the tariffs imported Steel.


The following article was written on December 1, 2003:
Washington Post article

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The WTO's ruling against the tariffs was finalized three weeks ago,

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Tomorrow he flies to Pittsburgh, headquarters of U.S. Steel Corp., which is the nation's largest domestic steel producer and led efforts to pressure the administration to retain the tariffs. Bush is going there for a fundraiser for his campaign. One of the organizers is Thomas J. Usher, U.S. Steel's chairman and chief executive.

So Bush delayed the reversal of his illegal tariffs for his trip to Pittsburgh. The steal companies gained an extra few million because of this. Then companies like U.S> Steel Corp. 'donate' money to Bush and his campaign.

I don't care what you call this, it's not right. When someone has the power to make laws that will affect a companies revenues that company should not be allowed to donate money to that person or his/her political party. It's wrong weather you call it soft money or bribery.

One last thing, Bush finally decided to put an end to the tariffs on December 4, 2003. Only 2 days after his big fundraiser in Pittsburgh.
I strongly doubt that this was a coincidence.