[Robair]

Shot for having an open beer can at a hockey game

RCMP need to be held accountable for this!!

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Mr. Bush's sister, Rene, said the family was told that he died from a single gunshot wound to the head during an altercation at the detachment in Houston, 240 kilometres west of Prince Rupert. "As a result of this altercation, Ian was killed by a single gunshot wound to the head," she said, reading from the notification the family received from the RCMP.

The struggle happened while Mr. Bush was being released from jail after he was arrested Saturday for having an open can of beer at a hockey game.

Ian Bush was the child of my mothers first cousin. Don't know what that would make him to me... I never met him or his father. His fathers brother, however, gave the eulogy at my Grandmothers funeral.

I've heard it through that grapevine that his body was bruised up. He went outside a hockey game with a couple friends for a quick beer between periods in a small town and ended up shot in the head in police custody.

What the hell is going on here??

[Robair]

Hey thanks Lily! Pass on anything you hear.

[Erinites]

My Brother in law is a cop.

"Jane and Finch" beat.
This would be Toronto for those who know...
nasty hood.

He "Tamed" a young "gangsta"one day for spitting on his cruiser.

Gangsta's momma came in and thanked him after the charges were dropped.


There are two sides to evey story.

[ShepherdsDog]

How do we know the cop was crooked?? If the individual shot had not been someone connected to you, this adjective would likely not have popped into your head. You should wait until you get the full story before labelling the officer crooked. If it was uncalled for the officer should be charged, if an accident, all anyone can offer is condolences. It's also misleading to refer to a 22 year old as a 'boy'.

[kerfuffled]

Its a shame something so mundane ended up so tragic, but that 22 year-old is not a boy. And he should also know not to give a false name when being questioned by the police. The rest is obviously still under investigation. Maybe the guy went for the cops gun and got shot by accident? Wait for the facts to come in.

[Robair]

This is under RANTS AND RAVES. I am totally allowed to use inflamatory language like "corrupt".

I am also getting info through the family grape vine that contributes to the opinion I have formed. That and my own experience with some city cops that were first rate pricks.

Osbtruction of justice for giving your budys name for consuming a beer in public?? Sense of humor anybody? Surley I'm not the only other one here who has had that ticket before... am I?

He was drinking a beer with some friends in the parking lot of a hockey game. He ended up SHOT IN THE #@#$@% HEAD. This is CANADA. People aren't supposed to be picked up for minor infractions and end up dead in CANADA. Somebody had better end up in a lot of trouble.

Not very comforting knowing it was just him and the cop(s) there. And now the RCMP are investigating themselves... [/rant2]

[LABBATTS50]

Actually most federal orginizations are more cut throat when they get to eat their own.

[Robair]

LABBATTS50 wrote:

Actually most federal orginizations are more cut throat when they get to eat their own.

Yea?

Hope so in this case.

[kerfuffled]

Robair wrote:

This is under RANTS AND RAVES. I am totally allowed to use inflamatory language like "corrupt".

I am also getting info through the family grape vine that contributes to the opinion I have formed. That and my own experience with some city cops that were first rate pricks.

Osbtruction of justice for giving your budys name for consuming a beer in public?? Sense of humor anybody? Surley I'm not the only other one here who has had that ticket before... am I?

He was drinking a beer with some friends in the parking lot of a hockey game. He ended up SHOT IN THE #@#$@% HEAD. This is CANADA. People aren't supposed to be picked up for minor infractions and end up dead in CANADA. Somebody had better end up in a lot of trouble.

Not very comforting knowing it was just him and the cop(s) there. And now the RCMP are investigating themselves... [/rant2]

He is still not a boy, no matter what your family is telling you. Also don't you think family emotions might colour what they are telling you? Yeesh don't crucify us for being objective. Not saying he did something wrong but ANYTHING can happen ANYWHERE at ANYTIME. He was drinking beer with friends and ended up shot in the head, well there's details that lay in between those two events and they will mean EVERYTHING in the end.
PS the cops always investigate themselves when guns are drawn and fired and people are injured or killed.

[Robair]

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On Oct. 29, a Saturday night, Bush was at a hockey game at the local rink. His friend, Jeremy Stapleton, was there too when Bush was arrested for having an open beer in his hand.

Stapleton says Bush didn't give the officer his real name. Instead he gave the name of a friend. The RCMP officer didn't find it funny.

"He [Bush] left in the car, he was laughing, joking, in a good mood," said Stapleton.

Sometime over the next hour, a police news release claims, Bush became violent at the police detachment and attacked the officer. That's when he was shot.

It is a version of events Bush's sisters totally reject.

"He didn't have disrespect for police officers, not ever. It's not that he was this disrespectful child like they are trying to make him sound. He just wouldn't go fighting with a police officer," said his sister Renee in an interview with CBC News.

The sisters say Bush never had any problems with the law. But the only witness is the officer who pulled the trigger.

Many people in Houston say they are shaken and so is their faith in the police.

"What they want to know is whether they can trust the police. If they go out and have a beer and get picked up walking home, are they going to get beat up and shot next?" said a Houston resident.

Bush's sisters say the police have promised them an explanation, eventually, but they are skeptical.

"We don't feel like it's going to be the truth because it's the RCMP investigating the RCMP. Maybe we would have more confidence if it was someone else investigating," said Andrea Patrick.

The officer who was last with Bush is now on administrative leave, pending an investigation.

link.

[BartSimpson]

Robair wrote:

And now the RCMP are investigating themselves... [/rant2]

No offence, but an investigation is standard procedure in any officer-involved shooting.

If an RCMP officer wasted someone who was trying to snipe the PM they'd still do a post-incident investigation no matter how obviously correct the officer's actions may appear.

So the fact that there is an investigation going on is not at all an indication nor an admission of guilt by the RCMP.

[Robair]

Yes Bart, I think we can file that under 'no shit'.

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[Chopper]

This doesn't add up. Since when is having open liquor an arrestable offence??? In Alberta this gets you a ticket, and you walk away a couple of bucks poorer. Maybe falsely identifying himself led to his arrest, but if he was properly identified on the scene he would not even have seen the inside of the patrol car. Anyone in BC familiar with the Left Coast version of the Gaming and Liquor Act???

[Robair]

Chopper wrote:

This doesn't add up. Since when is having open liquor an arrestable offence??? In Alberta this gets you a ticket, and you walk away a couple of bucks poorer. Maybe falsely identifying himself led to his arrest, but if he was properly identified on the scene he would not even have seen the inside of the patrol car. Anyone in BC familiar with the Left Coast version of the Gaming and Liquor Act???

Exactly. Should've been a $180.00 ticket, dump out your beer and you are on your way. Or, at least that's what I think it cost me ten years ago... ...I did see the inside of the patrol car but we didn't go anywhere. I think he just wanted to write up the ticket where it was nice and warm.

They charged him with obstruction of a police officer or something like that for giving a false name.

Any way you look at it, he should not have wound up dead.

[ridenrain]

Robair" Sorry to hear that and I agree with you. At the very most, he should have lost the beer and gotten a fine but instead he's dead.
What was the point?

It probably started off with one, or both, having a chip on their sholders and escalated from there. Cops (IMHO) are usually good at pushing the nessesary buttons to get the results they want, and a young guy drinking would be a likely target.

Police investigating themselves is like Politicians investigating themselves.