[ShepherdsDog]

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Woman who killed baby not going to jail
MAR 27 2006 05:00 PM


A Manitoba woman who killed her newborn baby is not going to jail.
27-year-old Selena Stevenson was given an 18-month conditional sentence after pleading guilty to the rare charge of infanticide. Court heard Stevenson placed a plastic bag over her baby's head. The body was discovered in the dump of the Peguis First Nation in March 2003.

Infanticide is described in the criminal code as a female that causes the death of her infant when she has not fully recovered from childbirth. The provision also states it's when the woman's mind is disturbed.

Her lawyer Greg Bodsky says his client was hoping the baby would not be born because a man she was living with would not acknowledge he was the child's father. Brodsky adds Stevenson was an abused and battered woman.

Stevenson must remain at a residence on the Fisher River Cree Nation and complete addictions counselling under the terms of her sentence.

CJOB's Jeff Keele reporting.

WTF is wrong with these people. This is the second report of a child being murdered there in the last few weeks. The grave of five year old Phoenix Sinclair was finally found last week, however the body was eaten by wild animals. She's the little girl who was tortured and murdered by primates, posing as humans. Yeah, PRIMATES!! I said it, because these pieces of shit don't classify as human. Those who take issue with the term primate, rather than the inhuman acts perpetrated on the little girl can take a flying fuck.

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Greg Brodsky

Whenever he's involved in something make sure to scrape your boots and go through a major course of antibiotic treatment. The smell of human suffering and sulphur clings to this guy like flies on shit.(an apt description of him and some of his clients too).

[kal]

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Yeah, PRIMATES!! I said it, because these pieces of shit don't classify as human

[Tricks]

Fucking disgusting.

[VitaminC]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Greg Bodsky

Never heard of him......

If you are calling mothers who murder their children Primates, then I agree with you.

If you're calling all the Aboriginal people who live in that reserve Primates, well I don't think that's right.

[BartSimpson]

kal wrote:

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Yeah, PRIMATES!! I said it, because these pieces of shit don't classify as human

Concur.

[Donny_Brasco]

VitaminC wrote:

If you are calling mothers who murder their children Primates, then I agree with you.

If you're calling all the Aboriginal people who live in that reserve Primates, well I don't think that's right.

Me too. This is sick. People out there are sick.

There is as much outrage in the Aboriginal community. Maybe more.

[Rev_Blair]

Killing children is no more a passtime on Peguis than it is anywhere else, SheperdsDog. The people of the community are as upset about this as anybody...moreso since it happened in their community. Your attempts to try to paint an entire community with the same brush ignores reality in favour of your preconceived and erroneous notions.

[fatbasturd]

Everyone involved in this will have to answer for it to god oneday...untill that happens I still think they should be removed from scoicety for good inculding the lawyer.

[ShepherdsDog]

VitaminC wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Greg Bodsky

Never heard of him......

If you are calling mothers who murder their children Primates, then I agree with you.

If you're calling all the Aboriginal people who live in that reserve Primates, well I don't think that's right.

If you read a little closer you'll notice that I refer to those who killed the children as primates. Both of the children murdered were aboriginal. It has nothing to do with race, though some of you will try and make it so. If the animals had been pink, white, purple or members of the NDP, I'd see them as primates not fit to be labelled human. However, Fisher River seems to have more than its fair share of primates than other surrounding population centres. I'd also like to know, why is that when women kill their children, they are poor victims of abuse or raging hormones, deserving of our understanding and compassion??? Yet when men commit this despicable acts, they are merely foul loathsome beasts that deserve to be sent to the lowest level of hell.

About Brodsky

Brodsky was the POS who defended the murderers of RCMP Constable Dennis Strongquill. When they were faced with the charge of murder,
Defence lawyer Greg Brodsky argued during the challenge that the mandatory murder charge is a violation of the constitutional right to life, liberty and security of the person, as well as the right to be free of arbitrary detention.

These are Brodsky's favourite kind of clients and what they were guilty of:

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A 20-year veteran of the police force, Strongquill was shot dead after a routine traffic stop outside Russell, Man.

He and his partner, Const. Brian Auger, pulled over a half-ton truck that that didn't turn down its high beams, according to the Crown. As the officers approached the vehicle they were shot at.

The Mounties ran back to their cruiser and fled, but the people in the truck chased them, the jury was told. It crashed into the police car, pinning Strongquill inside.

Bell yelled, "Kill him, kill him," and then Sand shot Strongquill with a sawed-off shotgun four times while he was trapped in the wreckage, Morrison told the trial.

"Const. Strongquill was wildly twisting and thrashing about as he tried escape a fate that he could not avoid," Morrison said in his opening statement.

CBC

[VitaminC]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

VitaminC wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Greg Bodsky

Never heard of him......

If you are calling mothers who murder their children Primates, then I agree with you.

If you're calling all the Aboriginal people who live in that reserve Primates, well I don't think that's right.

If you read a little closer you'll notice that I refer to those who killed the children as primates. Both of the children murdered were aboriginal.
About Brodsky

I wasn't try to imply anything, from your post I couldn't tell who you were referring to so I just wanted to be clear.....

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Brodsky was the POS who defended the murderers of RCMP Constable Dennis Strongquill.

Well I believe in having a system of justice where all people accused of a crime are able to mount the best possible defence, if they're guilty they should be found guilty whether they have a good defence or not.. I know that this could explode into a much bigger discussion though so I won't say anything else about it......

[Rev_Blair]

Brodsky has also fought to get the wrongfully imprisoned freed, SheperdsDog. Besides that, everybody has the right to legal counsel, whether you like them or not, and lawyers have a professional duty to provide that counsel.

[fatbasturd]

sorry rev the woman killed a baby with a fucking plastic bag...she at best deserves to be in prison or a mental institution untill the day she dies.

[VitaminC]

fatbasturd wrote:

sorry rev the woman killed a baby with a fucking plastic bag...she at best deserves to be in prison or a mental institution untill the day she dies.

The idea of a defense lawyer is not to get the person off scot-free, it is to give them the "best possible defense" in a given situation....

For instance some people might think she should be tortured and killed....Her defence lawyer should see that she gets treated in accordance to the law, and is not given a sentence that goes beyond the sentences that the Law gives out for her crime.....

I'm not saying that a prosecuter would really advocate torturing/killing, but - as an example - in many circumstances prosecuters try to convict people of first degree murder when they really committed manslaughter......I'm not saying that is the case here, but it happens and thats why we need defence lawyers....

If you think that infanticide as a crime is too lenient to mother who kill their children, I don't think it is fair to blame the defence attorney....

It is politicians who set out laws and the sentence ranges that correspond to them.

I personally think it is worse for a mother to kill their child than it is for someone else to kill a child.....The same way it is worse when a police officer commits a crime than when someone else does....

When someone is in a position that gives them authority, trust, and the job of guardianship/safekeeping, they are guilty of breaking that trust in addition to committing the crime, in my opinion.

Certain laws reflect that...the tern "Public Trustee" talks about that, and people who are considered "Public Trustees" are punished more harshly than average Joe under the law when they commit crimes related to their "Publc Trust".

[Rev_Blair]

She does deserve punishment, fatbasturd. She also deserves legal representation though and, if appropriate, medical treatment for her mental illness.

Just because a crime has a possible underlying cause and the person has a high-powered lawyer does not mean they get off. Mental illness also does not equal release. Insanity pleas require that the accused are so far gone that they don't know right from wrong. That is a very rare finding in court. More often the accused ends up in the psych ward in the pen. Wards for the mentally ill who have committed violent crimes are also no cakewalk.

She'll end up in in a penitentiary. The question is whether she'll get treatment when she gets there.

[fatbasturd]

Well some how house arrest seems like a bit of a slap in the face to all Canadians in this case...Lets be honest is this fucking justice.
The life of an infant..by the infants own mother = house arrest...damn what do you get for robbing a bank now days interest ?