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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:08 pm
How about this Sebb? We move all the Quebecois to Newfoundland and all the Newf's to Quebec. Then, and only then, can we all agree that you are no longer a part of Canada.
And here's the bonus! If you start some crap, we could nuke the whole damn island and not worry about hurting anyone else; just the separatist! That was meant as a joke; a bad one, I admit.
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:09 pm
I'm not debating, im just bating. I have no tolerance for seperatists. 
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:13 pm
Quote: Ruez and Freaker, question yourself with this, what exactly are you debating with here? A mindless drone or a intelligent scholar? You both need to make that distinction here and choose. Is this worth debating with Sebb or not. In my opinion,(im a observer) your wasting your time.
UofSaskatchewan: You are right that I am probably wasting my time but I'm always curious about what motivates separatists, what makes them tick.
I'm a bit of a masochist that way... 
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:13 pm
RUEZ wrote: I'm not debating, im just bating. I have no tolerance for seperatists. 
Seperatists dont debate. And yes they are fish and take the bate. They never get out of it and continue with an endless circle of misinformation.
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:18 pm
I can tell you one thing, nothing good will come of it. I know. You will never know what makes Seperatists tick. It is impossible. I commend you on your effort and I hope you make legit claims but I cannot get involved anymore.
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Sebb
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Posts: 21
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:19 pm
UofSaskatchewan wrote: Freaker wrote: What's with all of this army stuff all of the sudden? Nobody threatened Quebec with a military action tonight. Losing your cool, Sebb?  Ruez and Freaker, question yourself with this, what exactly are you debating with here? A mindless drone or a intelligent scholar? You both need to make that distinction here and choose. Is this worth debating with Sebb or not. In my opinion,(im a observer) your wasting your time.
I really enjoy myself guys. Thanks.
Yeah a bit Freaker... must be that I am a bit tired (it's 2 AM here)
UofSaskatchewan... you got it !!!
You know that we have a song here running a lot these days on the radio
It's called "Saskatchewan"... song by Les Trois Accords.
Do you that music ???
Great group, great song.
I guess you Canadian guys don't know about it hey ???
That's what I thought...
But hey... I thought we lived in a bilingual country where both languages and both cultures share their environment no ???
How come you don't know that song UofSaskatchewan ???
And you will come to Montréal to tell us you love us after...
You don't know us Québécois...
Admit it.
RUEZ again please.
Stop using that word.
It's Québécois not separatist.
Separatist is the word of Jean Chrétien a traitor for the majority of Québécois...
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:21 pm
Sebb wrote: RUEZ again please. Stop using that word. It's Québécois not separatist. Separatist is the word of Jean Chrétien a traitor for the majority of Québécois... And you are a traitor to my country, seperatist. 
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Sebb
Junior Member
Posts: 21
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:21 pm
Freaker wrote: Quote: UofSaskatchewan: You are right that I am probably wasting my time but I'm always curious about what motivates separatists, what makes them tick. I'm a bit of a masochist that way... 
Thanks for sharing...
In a way, Canadians do like to have those Québécois on whom they can do some bashing from time to time. No ??? Am I right or am I wrong ?
Next referendum, no more bashing.
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:25 pm
Sebb wrote: UofSaskatchewan wrote: I can tell you one thing, nothing good will come of it. I know. You will never know what makes Seperatists tick. It is impossible. I commend you on your effort and I hope you make legit claims but I cannot get involved anymore. Hep... you're right. It's about time you realize it.
http://www.canadaka.ca/modules.php?name ... pic&t=5044
Here read this and stop posting please. Its for your own good.
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Sebb
Junior Member
Posts: 21
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:27 pm
Quote: And you are a traitor to my country, seperatist. 
Okay little RUEZ
You want to see me as "the bad guy"
Okay no problem
"I am the bad guy in your country"
There you go... it's said.
I hope one day you could change your mind.
See me as a Québécois
Un digne Québécois qui a son pays.
Qui a un voisin Canadien aussi digne que lui.
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:46 pm
Its really interesting on how you can discuss your 'master plan' but as soon as somebody calls you out on it you cower. 1995 you have every chance to say yes to the referendum and leave Canda in your dust. And I must say, being 5, I probably wouldnt have know what was going on or cared. Now 10 years later is it the same uprising? We can see alot of it here, but how many Quebecers really want to leave. Quebec is part of the image of Canada, whether it be good or bad. Sure they complain a little more then most, and are fussier eaters, but they are Canadian.
You can call yourself whatever you want. The fact remains, you are a separtist. Your one goal is to achieve a soverign state for Quebec.
But realistically, and HYPOTHETICALLY, so dont call me out on this, can Quebec survive as a soverign nation. There is no military strength that could be brought up to defend yourselves. You have no money for health care, so having fun paying thousands just to see a doctor, and your economy is pretty strong, but could it hold up your countrys work force. And worst of all, you havent decided who to put on your money. Who would you have Rocket Richard on the 5, Jean Chretien on the 10, Mario Lemieux on the 20? Although all very popular at the hockey rink, as well all know Jean is a great stick handler, your people are going to cry. Youll last a few years, maybe a decade, and then you will come crawling back asking for money because your GDP has slipped below that of Luxembourg.
Think about it, you arent going to last. With the ever growing population your not going to get the 51% you need to leave, you missed your chance so quit whining about it. If everyone one of you would instead of posting here sent an email to Gary Bettman we would be watching some hockey right about now. I hope you are all happy.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:26 am
Regarding separatists, a few quick points:
1- They often resort to the false claim that they are economically impoverished and exploited by the rest of Canada, ignoring all the evidence to the contrary.
2- They can't decide amongst themselves whether or not they want to be independent and then turn around and blame Canada for their indecision.
3- They complain about being "humiliated" when they are denied any constitutionally-entrenched special status within Canada, and dishonestly suggest that Meech Lake would have instantly turned them into good loyal Canadians. Yeah sure...
4- They come pleading to the rest of Canada to "push Quebec out" when they have failed to convince a sufficient number of their fellow Quebecers that independence is the best option. IMHO, this is behaviour unworthy of any self-respecting people. In many ways Quebecers are a very proud people (and with good reason), which makes it all the more pitiful when some of them stoop to this...
On a final note, I know from personal experience that separatists (okay, okay, sovereignists!) are not all bad, monstrous, evil people. Reasonable arguments exist for independence. Unfortunately, some sovereignists resort to snivelling, dishonest arguments...
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:38 am
I see that repeated warnings had little or no effect on you flamers and sgit disturbers so... This hread wioll be locked now and relegated to the Rants and raves forums,, If this thread is restrated, it will be shut down at the first sign oftrouble.. (RH)
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