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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:06 pm
andyt wrote: This was actually published in the National Post. I think all Rex does for the CBC is cross country checkup, where he does a good job. But mostly he's just a rightwing blowhard who has a nice command of the language and is fun to read just for that. He's on the National all the time doing Op-eds! His NP column is just a print version of his video rants.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:11 pm
Lemmy wrote: Are you lot really calling him "Barry" now? Rings of when the Wonderbread media insisted on calling Roberto Clemente "Bobby". Horrible. Barak Obama called Barry for years before he "outgrew" it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:14 pm
So he outgrew it then?
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:26 pm
Lemmy wrote: So he outgrew it then? 
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:39 pm
Didn't make him sound like one of the brothers
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CommanderSock
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Posts: 2681
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:54 am
IMO Barack came in as a perennial outsider. The US has been ruled, not just by whites, but specifically whites from a certain 'social stock', upper class WASPs, for more or less most of its post (and pre) industrial history.
This man comes along, defying all expectations (he wasn't expected to beat Hillary). While he's brilliant, his outsider status made him toxic. It stripped him of the “insider’s club” authority a leader needs to get things done. He can't just waltz into a room and start ordering these old wasps around, "who's this asshole?" probably goes through many heads. His authority is questioned at every turn. They look at him, and they don't see a leader, they see an outsider, an impostor, something they have to put up with until the next election. This is from Democrats, his own personal advisors, not Republicans. They simply cannot relate to him. Different backgrounds, lifestyles, looks, and generation. And don’t fall for the PC bullshit, those who look alike are far more likely to work together to solve problems than those who look different. The human is a suspicious tribal creature. And because this man wants to appear as a non threatening black man, he lets these people make decisions over his head, and disrespect his authority.
Republicans shit on him from a distance, and he's too timid to fire back. When was the last time the president ever said these words "Right Wing Extremists"?
How many times has the GOP leadership said (blatantly or indirectly) uttered “Left Wing Extremists, class warfare, socialism"? The attacks are asymmetrical.
Verdict of Obama, well, he is a timid a pussy. But his timidity is caused by the necessity to adapt. If he came in too aggressive, it might cause serious even worse social problems. America was never ready for not just black, but most importantly a black liberal lawyer president.
It was liberals and centrists who voted him in, not right wingers, He needs to stop pandering. And it looks like some posters here (and many 'right wing' Americans) were totally right to label him as inexperienced, but for all the wrong reasons.
He's inexperienced because he's too amiable. He needs to stick to his convictions and the rightists be damned. Bush didn't seek Democratic approval for his tax cuts. Obama should not have sought Republican approval for anything he wanted while the House was in the Dem's hands. Politics is rough and tough in America, and he learned the hard way. The good thing is, he learned. He's now more comfortable and ready to play in the political mud.
Anyhow, Obama missed his opportunity at first, but time will tell if he grows a pair, and reciprocates against the right wing.
PS: Colin Powell knew far more about running America than Obama, and for that reason he declined to run. He knew that to do what was needed to be done, he might actually get shot, or worse, serious civil rupture might occur, and he wasn’t willing to go down that route. PPS: Countries aren’t run by individuals, they’re run by cliques. There are kings, and there are kingmakers. Obama is a king w/o kingmakers and because of that, he lacks serious authority within his own circle.
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:01 am
Quote: If he came in too aggressive, it might cause serious even worse social problems.
You'd have all the trailer trash calling him an uppity nigger and the death threats(more than any other president) would be evn worse. I'm surprised one of the cousin marrying, grade school dropout wing nuts hasn't already tried to go down in history.
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CommanderSock
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Posts: 2681
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:13 am
Those 'trailer trash' people aren't any threat to anyone but themselves, or other trashy people of other races (the poor blacks and mexicans they share social sphere with).
If he went in hard, it's the people who actually wield power who might do something problematic. The poor blacks, and poor whites of Americans are like the Chinese peasant. They make alot of noise, but when push comes to shove they're irrelevant in the greater scheme of things and can be put down easily by those in charge.
I'd be more worried about the upper class being pissed off. And there are fates worse than death. Killing Obama would only make his legacy stronger. Political annihilation is a far more potent weapon. That’s what they can do.
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:14 am
^ Still lots of time left for one of the heartlandishly-hued patriots to go down in history though. 
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:21 am
CommanderSock wrote: Those 'trailer trash' people aren't any threat to anyone but themselves, or other trashy people of other races (the poor blacks and mexicans they share social sphere with).
If he went in hard, it's the people who actually wield power who might do something problematic. The poor blacks, and poor whites of Americans are like the Chinese peasant. They make alot of noise, but when push comes to shove they're irrelevant in the greater scheme of things and can be put down easily by those in charge.
I'd be more worried about the upper class being pissed off. And there are fates worse than death. Killing Obama would only make his legacy stronger. Political annihilation is a far more potent weapon. That’s what they can do. It's actually quite amazing that rural and underclass whites are so slavishly loyal to hard-right capitalist politics in the United States. When you look at all that's afflicted on them, from shortened life-spans thanks to inadequate healthcare to absolutely abyssmal education standards to filling the ranks of the military in all these ridiculous wars to being the first ones laid off and essentially forgotten altogether by the financiers and politicians, it seems amazing that they continually keep voting for the same corporate-owned representatives and Presidents that are directly responsible for selling the lot of them down the river. Is fear of "the blacks" still so strong down there that they literally can't see that they're willingly propping up those who are so thoroughly and existentially guilty of permanently impovrishing them? 
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