[Scrappy]

I've seen the cons on this forum stick it to the Liberals Party of Canada for their deceitful cheating ways. So why the silence from the Conservative Supporters over the betrayal by Steven Harper in Atlantic Canada and Sask.? Do you stand behind you leader? Do you agree that it's okay to breach a legal contract and smirk in front of a camera and taunt Altantic Canadians. The disrepect and less than amusing comments while the cons attempt to deflect this "SERIOUS" issue with topics on underwear isn't working with me. I've stood with the Cons on many issue why the silence when your party is par-taking in blatant LYING? So where is the Principled Conservative, they are silent in Ottawa and they are silent over this issue on this forum. WHY? I'd like to see the Cons explain how they can attack Liberals and their policys while hiding mutely behind a LIAR. Is it a myth that Con supporters have principles?? I'm not seeing a modicum of principles from the con supporters only deafening silence. This isn't the kind of leadership Canada needs, the analogy that comes to mind is Harper is a Boarder Collie herding a flock of blind and mute sheep. One bleat out of all the MPs, that's scary. The voters will remember this deafening silence, even Principled Conservatives.

Gotta run I'm making a video called Liar, care to guess who's the lead actor?

[Clogeroo]

I still don't see how the government broke anything? You can stay under your old equalisation formula if you want to or move to a new one, which does account half your resources in its calculation but pays out more equalisation. All this comes do is the Maritimes and Newfoundland wanting more equalisation but not wanting to have their assets accounted for in it. It is okay for you to take everyone’s money but when it comes to paying your share you seem to not be willing to do that.

[icekarma2752]

to tell you the truth scrappy i dont know wear i stand...i'm equally disappointed too

[HyperionTheEvil]

Scrappy wrote:

I've seen the cons on this forum stick it to the Liberals Party of Canada for their deceitful cheating ways. So why the silence from the Conservative Supporters over the betrayal by Steven Harper in Atlantic Canada and Sask.? Do you stand behind you leader? Do you agree that it's okay to breach a legal contract and smirk in front of a camera and taunt Altantic Canadians. The disrepect and less than amusing comments while the cons attempt to deflect this "SERIOUS" issue with topics on underwear isn't working with me. I've stood with the Cons on many issue why the silence when your party is par-taking in blatant LYING? So where is the Principled Conservative, they are silent in Ottawa and they are silent over this issue on this forum. WHY? I'd like to see the Cons explain how they can attack Liberals and their policys while hiding mutely behind a LIAR. Is it a myth that Con supporters have principles?? I'm not seeing a modicum of principles from the con supporters only deafening silence. This isn't the kind of leadership Canada needs, the analogy that comes to mind is Harper is a Boarder Collie herding a flock of blind and mute sheep. One bleat out of all the MPs, that's scary. The voters will remember this deafening silence, even Principled Conservatives.

Gotta run I'm making a video called Liar, care to guess who's the lead actor?

Please do remember that those wonderful arragnements were made by every ones second favourite PM- Paul Martin - when he was doing everything he could to buy votes whereever he could

[BartSimpson]

The equalisation payments are frankly unfair to the more creative and productive provinces and should be done away with. In the US we do not transfer the revenue of the states to other states, what we do is we encourage the less successfult states to adopt policies that make them more competitive with the successful states.

I know it'll tick off a few of you, but Canada's model subsidizes the incompetent governments of the nation (*coff* *coff* Quebec).

[bootlegga]

It has nothing to do with subsidizing incompetents Bart, it has everything to do with equality. That's the big difference between Canada and the USA you just don't seem to get.

American tend to let those who can succeed do so and everyone else can starve for all they care, while up here, we prefer to have a more even playing field and at least provide a minimum of support to everyone. For examples, see the differences in our health care, poverty, employee protection, etc. Down there, it tends to be sink or swim, while up here everyone starts out the same. Where they finish, well, that's up to the individual. That's the rationale behind the transfer program. Take a bit from the haves and help out the have-nots.

IMHO, that's the biggest difference between Canada and the US. I'm not ciritcizing the American viewpoint or praising ours, just simply pointing out a fundamental difference in culutral philosophy...

[Blue_Nose]

This probably isn't the right thread for this, but nevertheless:

If it's productivity that's to be promoted, than leaving resources out of these payments seems to be counter productive - from what I can see, what's effectively being said is that you don't get to keep what you've worked for, but if you happen to have sat your ass down on a piece of land that's got oil in it, you deserve to keep it.

That being said, breaking off agreements when it suits you isn't very admirable.

[Fascisti]

BartSimpson wrote:

The equalisation payments are frankly unfair to the more creative and productive provinces and should be done away with. In the US we do not transfer the revenue of the states to other states, what we do is we encourage the less successfult states to adopt policies that make them more competitive with the successful states.

I know it'll tick off a few of you, but Canada's model subsidizes the incompetent governments of the nation (*coff* *coff* Quebec).

[font=Verdana] My child, Quebec is not an 'incompetent' province, it is 'traitorous'. There is a difference. Quebec creates one of our greatest tax bases, second only to Ontario. Government only 'subsidised' portions of Quebec based upon the sole fact many of our Prime Ministers were from Quebec. The mere fact our parliamentary democracy *booooooo!!!* works on majority representation would suggest Quebec is indeed a political powerhouse. Even the annoyingly leftist Steven Harper has been sucking up to Quebec because he knows numbers mean everything. Remove the power of those numbers and Quebec becomes what they should have been in the 1700s, our bitch. [/font]

[Toro]

Why are you so upset Scrappy?

[Delwin]

Scrappy wrote:

I've seen the cons on this forum stick it to the Liberals Party of Canada for their deceitful cheating ways. So why the silence from the Conservative Supporters over the betrayal by Steven Harper in Atlantic Canada and Sask.? Do you stand behind you leader? Do you agree that it's okay to breach a legal contract and smirk in front of a camera and taunt Altantic Canadians. The disrepect and less than amusing comments while the cons attempt to deflect this "SERIOUS" issue with topics on underwear isn't working with me. I've stood with the Cons on many issue why the silence when your party is par-taking in blatant LYING? So where is the Principled Conservative, they are silent in Ottawa and they are silent over this issue on this forum. WHY? I'd like to see the Cons explain how they can attack Liberals and their policys while hiding mutely behind a LIAR. Is it a myth that Con supporters have principles?? I'm not seeing a modicum of principles from the con supporters only deafening silence. This isn't the kind of leadership Canada needs, the analogy that comes to mind is Harper is a Boarder Collie herding a flock of blind and mute sheep. One bleat out of all the MPs, that's scary. The voters will remember this deafening silence, even Principled Conservatives.

Gotta run I'm making a video called Liar, care to guess who's the lead actor?

Sorry Scrappy, the Conservative party of Canada is an exclusive club, and being from a have-not province, you don't exactly fit the mold.

The good news is there is a political party in Canada that does aim to provide for all Canadians and that party is the Liberal party of Canada. Now I know many of the values they hold are not exactly your strong suits, you know like; social justice, religious equality, equal opportunity,etc. but if you are able to tone down the over-the-top rhetoric you are so found of excreting, I am sure you could make a case for membership.

[icekarma2752]

Scrappy wrote:

I've seen the cons on this forum stick it to the Liberals Party of Canada for their deceitful cheating ways. So why the silence from the Conservative Supporters over the betrayal by Steven Harper in Atlantic Canada and Sask.? Do you stand behind you leader? Do you agree that it's okay to breach a legal contract and smirk in front of a camera and taunt Altantic Canadians. The disrepect and less than amusing comments while the cons attempt to deflect this "SERIOUS" issue with topics on underwear isn't working with me. I've stood with the Cons on many issue why the silence when your party is par-taking in blatant LYING? So where is the Principled Conservative, they are silent in Ottawa and they are silent over this issue on this forum. WHY? I'd like to see the Cons explain how they can attack Liberals and their policys while hiding mutely behind a LIAR. Is it a myth that Con supporters have principles?? I'm not seeing a modicum of principles from the con supporters only deafening silence. This isn't the kind of leadership Canada needs, the analogy that comes to mind is Harper is a Boarder Collie herding a flock of blind and mute sheep. One bleat out of all the MPs, that's scary. The voters will remember this deafening silence, even Principled Conservatives.

Gotta run I'm making a video called Liar, care to guess who's the lead actor?

yes scrappy i am most disappointed in harper's govt...but be it as it may i'm still standing by him...but as a supporter i have not been silent..in various posts i've mentioned he needs to get his shit together and to stop relying on the liberals having a thoroughly incompetent dion as leader for a ticket to win only another minority govt

[Scape]

Scrappy wrote:

I've seen the cons on this forum stick it to the Liberals Party of Canada for their deceitful cheating ways. So why the silence from the Conservative Supporters over the betrayal by Steven Harper in Atlantic Canada and Sask.? Do you stand behind you leader? Do you agree that it's okay to breach a legal contract and smirk in front of a camera and taunt Altantic Canadians. The disrepect and less than amusing comments while the cons attempt to deflect this "SERIOUS" issue with topics on underwear isn't working with me. I've stood with the Cons on many issue why the silence when your party is par-taking in blatant LYING? So where is the Principled Conservative, they are silent in Ottawa and they are silent over this issue on this forum. WHY? I'd like to see the Cons explain how they can attack Liberals and their policys while hiding mutely behind a LIAR. Is it a myth that Con supporters have principles?? I'm not seeing a modicum of principles from the con supporters only deafening silence. This isn't the kind of leadership Canada needs, the analogy that comes to mind is Harper is a Boarder Collie herding a flock of blind and mute sheep. One bleat out of all the MPs, that's scary. The voters will remember this deafening silence, even Principled Conservatives.

Gotta run I'm making a video called Liar, care to guess who's the lead actor?

Couldn't have said it better.

P.S. Delwin, take a long walk off a short pier buddy.