[Guy_Fawkes]

[Gunnair]

Holy fuck, GF, you're a spammin' machine today.

[Guy_Fawkes]

[Gunnair]

[Guy_Fawkes]

Gunnair wrote:

Holy fuck, GF, you're a spammin' machine today.

Wow I didnt know public and civil debates about religion (a topic that is up to 18 pages now) would be considered spam. I guess all atheists should just shut up and sit quietly. I would have thought you would be less close minded Gunnair, Im pretty disapointed. Hell even these debates are about the position that you hold, yet you consider them spam.

[Mr_Canada]

How is this spam? How is it any different than what anyone else posts?

[Gunnair]

Guy_Fawkes wrote:

Gunnair wrote:

Holy fuck, GF, you're a spammin' machine today.

Wow I didnt know public and civil debates about religion (a topic that is up to 18 pages now) would be considered spam. I guess all atheists should just shut up and sit quietly. I would have thought you would be less close minded Gunnair, Im pretty disapointed. Hell even these debates are about the position that you hold, yet you consider them spam.

I consider them spam in the spirit of what they are intended. They are not intended to foster debate becuase there is no debate. The sides are polarized on this with both sides being equally closed minded because neither side will allow the other to hold their position or beliefs for that matter. There is no intent civil discourse nor has there been. So I s'pose in that sense, you are right. Since you are not out to discuss, nor really debate, but to simply continue pointed attacks like an eight year old at recess, then yes, you can sit down and you can shut up.

I'm happy to disappoint yet another idiot on the forums.

[Guy_Fawkes]

Its about a topic he doesnt like, from a point of view which he does not respect. Personally I see it as a way for each side to see different talking points. Hell it might even answer some questions that one might have!

[Guy_Fawkes]

Gunnair wrote:

Guy_Fawkes wrote:

Gunnair wrote:

Holy fuck, GF, you're a spammin' machine today.

Wow I didnt know public and civil debates about religion (a topic that is up to 18 pages now) would be considered spam. I guess all atheists should just shut up and sit quietly. I would have thought you would be less close minded Gunnair, Im pretty disapointed. Hell even these debates are about the position that you hold, yet you consider them spam.

I consider them spam in the spirit of what they are intended. They are not intended to foster debate becuase there is no debate. The sides are polarized on this with both sides being equally closed minded because neither side will allow the other to hold their position or beliefs for that matter. There is no intent civil discourse nor has there been. So I s'pose in that sense, you are right. Since you are not out to discuss, nor really debate, but to simply continue pointed attacks like an eight year old at recess, then yes, you can sit down and you can shut up.

I'm happy to disappoint yet another idiot on the forums.

You wont even watch the videos yet you claim they are polarized, I can see why you dont understand an atheist point of view.

[sandorski]

Good debate, thanks for posting it.

[Dayseed]

Gunnair wrote:

I consider them spam in the spirit of what they are intended. They are not intended to foster debate becuase there is no debate. The sides are polarized on this with both sides being equally closed minded because neither side will allow the other to hold their position or beliefs for that matter.

Really? They're equally closed minded? One side relies on facts, evidence, verifiability and falsifiability while the other relies on revelation and faith but they're equally closed minded?

Is it closed-minded to ask why the Christian God and not any others? Is it open-minded to affirm the Christian God to the exclusion of all other of history's Gods without so much as a shred of damn proof?

Having faith requires being closed-minded. Faith is the t-bone collision between arrogance and ignorance. Faith is saying "I am right about this, you are wrong and I will not learn anything further."

Atheism on the other hand, IS open-minded. It's the stance of saying, "Anybody can come forward and prove their God."

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There is no intent civil discourse nor has there been. So I s'pose in that sense, you are right. Since you are not out to discuss, nor really debate, but to simply continue pointed attacks like an eight year old at recess, then yes, you can sit down and you can shut up.

Ah, there's the spirit of open-mindedness you so richly revere!

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I'm happy to disappoint yet another idiot on the forums.

I'm not sure that's a resume-builder you want to broadcast...

[angler57]

We will each know the truth of this debate one day or another.
If you are in a hurry for this answer, it is easy to find.
Being an old person I will know that answer sooner than most here.

The truth is in our last breath.

[PostFactum]

angler57 wrote:

We will each know the truth of this debate one day or another.
If you are in a hurry for this answer, it is easy to find.
Being an old person I will know that answer sooner than most here.

The truth is in our last breath.

I don't want to dissapoint you, but it can happen that you won't get the answer. Maybe all of us are just dying and nothing more and everything was just imagined for protecting our mind from fear of death .

[Dayseed]

angler57 wrote:

We will each know the truth of this debate one day or another.
If you are in a hurry for this answer, it is easy to find.
Being an old person I will know that answer sooner than most here.

The truth is in our last breath.

Um, are you planning on blowing your brains out or something? Didn't you tweet threats like this on the Governor of Maryland's twitter feed which lead to a whole Maryland Bureau of Investigation thing?

Should others be looking into this?

[Gunnair]

"Dayseed" wrote:

Gunnair wrote:

I consider them spam in the spirit of what they are intended. They are not intended to foster debate becuase there is no debate. The sides are polarized on this with both sides being equally closed minded because neither side will allow the other to hold their position or beliefs for that matter.

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Really? They're equally closed minded? One side relies on facts, evidence, verifiability and falsifiability while the other relies on revelation and faith but they're equally closed minded?

Yes. Facts are irrelevent to the close minded. One side will not accept that a person can have faith in a God while the other will not accept that someone can not.

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Faith is saying "I am right about this, you are wrong and I will not learn anything further."

Hardly. Faith is personal. One can have a faith/belief and still have the capacity to learn.

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Atheism on the other hand, IS open-minded. It's the stance of saying, "Anybody can come forward and prove their God."

That's not a hallmark of openmindedness - more like an agenda. How is it the business of an Athiest what someone believes? For the Athiests with a chip that are so vehemently annoyed by JWs or the corner street hawkers that preach - take them to task. I'm curious why they have a need to go after the rank and file.

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There is no intent civil discourse nor has there been. So I s'pose in that sense, you are right. Since you are not out to discuss, nor really debate, but to simply continue pointed attacks like an eight year old at recess, then yes, you can sit down and you can shut up.

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Ah, there's the spirit of open-mindedness you so richly revere!

It's a statement of fact. This is a polarizing topic and neither is coming into it with any real spirit to learn. The Athiests simply want scientific evidence of God - no effort to understand faith, especially at the individual level. It's far easier to simply sit back and attack, from whatever personal agenda they have. They're not building anything from it, there's nothing positive coming of it, it's only meant to fan the flames.

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I'm happy to disappoint yet another idiot on the forums.

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I'm not sure that's a resume-builder you want to broadcast...

I'm rather comfortable with it, I can assure you.