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The Jews never believed that the Messiah would be the 'Son of God, anymore than any man was a son of God. There have been a few messiahs in Jewish history. Cyrus the great was declared a messiah for rending the Babylonian captivity and allowing the Jews to return to their homeland to rebuild the Temple. It's only Muslims and Christians that have referred to Jesus as the Messiah or the Word of God.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:33 am
 


Fighter Fighter:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:

$1:
1. Muslim joins the board.
2. Is really nice at the start.
3. Within a few weeks turns to proselytizing Islam.
4. Eventually graduates to condemning other religions.
5. Eventually gets around to threatening other people.
6. Gets banned by a moderator.


You're right now at #3.

I figure #4 will be on deck before the end of this calendar month. Feel free to prove me wrong on that. :wink:


ROTFL


Or since you find that so funny then feel free to prove me right.


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The Jews never believed that the Messiah would be the 'Son of God, anymore than any man was a son of God. There have been a few messiahs in Jewish history. Cyrus the great was declared a messiah for rending the Babylonian captivity and allowing the Jews to return to their homeland to rebuild the Temple. It's only Muslims and Christians that have referred to Jesus as the Messiah or the Word of God.


hmm...

Thank you for your comment, sir :)

We can all learn the opinion of each other in a nice constructive way...

By the way, How do Jews see Muslims? I mean what is the current status of Muslim-Jew relationship in your opinion?

You're Jew, right?

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Or since you find that so funny then feel free to prove me right.


That comment of yours literally cracked me up and still does whenever I read that...

By the way...What is your age, mind telling that? I am 25


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:01 am
 


Fighter Fighter:
By the way...What is your age, mind telling that? I am 25


I'm fifty-three.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:14 am
 


hmm....

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:17 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I'm fifty-three.


:) Thanks but that comment of yours was really childish...

Trolling knows no age limit

:lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:19 am
 


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I think people should wear what they like. I think the issue with garb in some countries is that women are punished, even beaten or killed, for not wearing the clothes directed by the men. Whereas the nun, at least for the last couple of hundred years, is free to wear what she likes, including a habit, without sanction.

I would have thought that was obvious.


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Just gonna leave this here:

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I think people should wear what they like. I think the issue with garb in some countries is that women are punished, even beaten or killed, for not wearing the clothes directed by the men. Whereas the nun, at least for the last couple of hundred years, is free to wear what she likes, including a habit, without sanction.

I would have thought that was obvious.


Thanks for your comment...

Sir, Muslims are almost more than 1 billion people on this planet earth...How it can be assumed and generalize that Muslim women are oppressed or terrorized by their men just because she is wearing Scarf/Niqab...??? This is the impression we get from west.

In Pakistan I have yet to hear such a case where our women were punished just because they decided not to wear veiling. And Pakistan is Islamic Republic. I don't know about other Muslim countries but here are Muslim Pakistani women.

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Some isolated cases cannot and will never define Muslim women. Most of the Muslim women wear scarf out of their own will because Islam asks to do so and even if she takes a scarf just because his husband wants so...Isn't it describe the strong family/husband wife love - taking care of each other's wishes...Husbands also adopt to what their wives want. It goes both ways. I don't know about men who beat women in my circle or by large in Pakistani society And we Pakistanis are quite religious people.

Why this impression Muslims get as if their women are being called oppressed and terrorized not because of some countries/isolated cases where women got beaten but just because they obey Islam and wear/take veiling...???

And not to mention when talking about oppression and biasness against Muslim women with scarf...It is the west or should I say right wingers in west who have started hating Muslim women just because they take scarf.

What's happening now in UK? we can see...We'll get for pulling a Muslim women’s hijab 25 points.

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https://twitter.com/Rowaida_Abdel/status/972160334076284929/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F03%2F11%2Fworld%2Feurope%2Fuk-muslims-letters.html

So far, Only one Muslim women with scarf is allowed to become news anchor in Canada...She said:-

“I've talked to many women who are journalists in the US who work behind the scenes and they've told me that they face multiple challenges trying to get on air,” said Massa.

“They've been told because of their hijab, that's not going to happen. That makes me really sad because they're being held back by someone else's idea of what the public can or cannot handle.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/26/reporter-becomes-canadas-first-hijab-clad-news-anchor

I respect white people. i respect Canada but I don't like when they ride on high moral horse.

You people will be surprised to know that, India, a Hindu majority country, even there women still have some kind of cover on their upper body and I am talking about Hindu women

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I don't think they are "oppressed" or "terrorized"

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I personally like veiling...Saving the most beautiful part or body of yours only for your husband (the person who loves or will be loving you the most) rather than satisfying other men's lust.

It doesn't mean I don't respect women who don't take veiling.

It's nice to talk with you :)


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:08 pm
 


Fighter Fighter:
hmm....

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No one is forced to join the Catholic Church and then become a nun. But in a growing number of fucked up Islamic countries women are FORCED to wear all sorts of demeaning outfits under penalty of prosecution and even death.

That's a big huge difference there.


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Wikipedia can be poor source given how we can edit it but it doesn't mean all information on that is incorrect....Like the following

Allah has 99 names/attributes

The 99 Names of Allah are very important to all muslims and are taken from indirect verses of the Qur'an and they are:

Al Rahman (الرحمن) The Most Gracious
Ar Raheem (الرحيم) The Most Merciful
Al Malik (الملك) The King
Al Quddus (القدوس) The Most Holy
As Salam (السلام) The Ultimate Provider of Peace
Al Mu'min (المؤمن) The Guarant Blessing
Al Muhaymin (المهيمن) The Guardian, the Preserver
Al Aziz (العزيز) The Almighty, the Self Sufficient
Al Jabbaar (الجبار) The Powerful ,
Al Mutakabbir (المتكبر) The Greatest
Al Khaaliq (الخالق) The Creator
Al Baari (البارئ) The Maker
Al Musawwir (المصور) The Fashioner of Forms
Al Ghaffaar (الغفار) The Ever-Forgiving
Al Qahhaar (القهار) The All Subduer
Al Wahhaab(الوهاب) The Bestower
Ar Razzaaq (الرزاق) The Ever-Providing,The Sustainer
Al Fattaah(الفتاح) The Ultimate Judge, The Opener of All Portals, the Victory Giver
Al Alim (العليم) The All-Knowing, the Omniscient
Al Qaabidh (القابض) The Restrainer, the Straightener
Al Baasit (الباسط) The Expander, the Munificent
Al Khaafidh (الخافض) The Abaser, The Demeanor
Ar Raafi' (الرافع) The Exalter
Al Mu'izz (المعز) The Giver of Honor
Al Muzil (المذل) The Humiliator
As Sami/Al Sami' (السميع) The All-Hearing
Al Basir (البصير) The All-Seeing
Al Hakam (الحكم) The Judge, the Ultimate Arbiter
Al 'Adl (العدل) The Utterly Just
Al Latif (اللطيف) The Kind
Al Khabir (الخبير) The All-Aware
Al Halim (الحليم) The Forbearer, The Indulgent
Al-‘Adheem (العظيم) The Magnificent, the Infinite
Al Ghafur (الغفور) The All-Forgiving
Ash Shakur (الشكور) The Grateful
Al Ali (العلي) The Sublimely Exalted
Al Kabir (الكبير) The Great
Al Hafidh (الحفيظ) The Preserver, The Protector
Al Muqit (المقيت) The Nourisher
Al Hasib (الحسيب) The Reckoner
Al Jalil (الجليل) The Majestic
Al Karim (الكريم) The Bountiful, the Generous
Ar Raqib (الرقيب) The Watchful
Al Mujib (المجيب) The Responsive, the Answerer
Al Wasi' (الواسع) The Vast, the All Encompassing
Al Hakim (الحكيم) The Wise
Al Wadud (الودود) The Loving, the Kind One
Al Majid (المجيد) The All Glorious
Al Ba'ith (الباعث) The Raiser of the Dead
Ash Shaheed (الشهيد) The Witness
Al Haqq (الحق) The Truth, the Real
Al Wakil (الوكيل) The Trustee, the Dependable
Al Qawiyy (القوي) The Strong
Al Mateen (المتين) The Firm, the Steadfast
Al Wali (الولي) The Protecting Friend, Patron, and Supporter
Al Hamidu (الحميد) The All Praise Worthy
Al Muhsi (المحصي) The Accounter, The Numberer of All
Al Mubdi (المبدئ) The Producer, Originator, and Initiator of all
Al Mu'id (المعيد) The Reinstater Who Brings Back All
Al Muhyi (المحيي) The Giver of Life
Al Mumit (المميت) The Bringer of Death, the Destroyer
Al Hayy (الحي) The Ever Living
Al Qayyum (القيوم) The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All
Al Waajid (الواجد) The Perceiver, the Finder, the Unfailing
Al Maajid (الماجد) The Illustrious, the Magnificent
Al Waahid (الواحد) The One, the All Inclusive, the Indivisible
Al Ahad (الاحد) The One, the Indivisible
As Samad (الصمد) The Everlasting,The Eternal Refuge
Al Qaadir (القادر) The All-Capable, The Most Able, The Most Powerful
Al Muqtadir (المقتدر) The All Determiner, the Dominant
Al Muqaddim (المقدم) The Expediter, He who brings forward
Al Mu'akhkhir (المؤخر) The Delayer, He who brings backwards
Al Awwal (الأول) The First
Al Aakhir (الآخر) The Last
Az Dhaahir (الظاهر) The Manifest; the All Victorious
Al Baatin (الباطن) The Hidden; the All Encompassing
Al Waali (الوالي) The Patron
Al Muta'ali (المتعالي) The Self Exalted
Al Barr (البر) The Most Kind and Righteous
At Tawwaab (التواب) The Ever-Pardoning, Ever Relenting
Al Muntaqim (المنتقم) The Avenger
Al 'Afuww (العفو) The Pardoner, The Forgiver
Ar Ra'uf (الرؤوف) The Clement, The Compassionate, The All-Pitying
Malik al Mulk (مالك الملك) The Owner of All Sovereignty
Dhu al Jalal wa al Ikram (ذو الجلال و الإكرام) The Lord of Majesty and Generosity
Al Muqsit (المقسط) The Equitable, the Requiter
Al Jaami' (الجامع) The Gatherer, the Unifier
Al Ghani (الغني) The All Rich, the Independent
Al Mughni (المغني) The Enricher, the Emancipator
Al Mani' (المانع) The Withholder, the Shielder, the Defender
Ad Dharr (الضآر) The Distresser
An Nafi' (النافع) The Propitious, the Benefactor
An Nur (النور) The Light
Al Hadi (الهادي) The Guide
Al Badi'i (البديع) Incomparable, the Originator
Al Baaqi (الباقي) The Ever Enduring and Immutable
Al Waarith (الوارث) The Heir, the Inheritor of All
Ar Rashid (الرشيد) The Guide, Infallible Teacher, and Knower
Al Saboor (الصبور) The Forbearing, The Patient

'Allah' is a title for All-Mighty God. The word Allah means The God in Arabic.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:10 pm
 


Fighter Fighter:

:) Thanks but that comment of yours was really childish...

Trolling knows no age limit



You're probably too fucking dense to see what you just did here. :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:17 pm
 


Fighter Fighter:
And Pakistan is Islamic Republic. I don't know about other Muslim countries but here are Muslim Pakistani women.



I guess the madrassa doesn't let you get out much. Yesterday.


'Obey the rules': Shocking moment Iranian man slaps woman in Tehran for refusing to wear a hijab after getting out of his car to scream at her

Woman screamed at in parking lot in Tehran, Iran for not wearing her veil
Man gets out of his car at one point and appears to physically assault her
Jaw-dropping footage shows man shouting at her to 'obey the rules'
Passers-by honked cars and shouted in support of unidentified woman


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z59wP84D8y


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:20 pm
 


Fighter Fighter:

The 99 Names of Allah are very important to all muslims and are taken from indirect verses of the Qur'an and they are:


Well now he has 6 more.

Al Rahman (الرحمن) The Most Gay
Ar Raheem (الرحيم) The Most Trans
Al Malik (الملك) The Lesbian
Al Quddus (القدوس) The Most Intersex
As Salam (السلام) The Ultimate Queer
Al Mu'min (المؤمن) The representative of everything degenerate in the world.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:26 pm
 


Fighter Fighter:
Thanks for your comment...

Sir, Muslims are almost more than 1 billion people on this planet earth...How it can be assumed and generalize that Muslim women are oppressed or terrorized by their men just because she is wearing Scarf/Niqab...??? This is the impression we get from west.

In Pakistan I have yet to hear such a case where our women were punished just because they decided not to wear veiling. And Pakistan is Islamic Republic. I don't know about other Muslim countries but here are Muslim Pakistani women.


Some isolated cases cannot and will never define Muslim women. Most of the Muslim women wear scarf out of their own will because Islam asks to do so and even if she takes a scarf just because his husband wants so...Isn't it describe the strong family/husband wife love - taking care of each other's wishes...Husbands also adopt to what their wives want. It goes both ways. I don't know about men who beat women in my circle or by large in Pakistani society And we Pakistanis are quite religious people.

Why this impression Muslims get as if their women are being called oppressed and terrorized not because of some countries/isolated cases where women got beaten but just because they obey Islam and wear/take veiling...???

And not to mention when talking about oppression and biasness against Muslim women with scarf...It is the west or should I say right wingers in west who have started hating Muslim women just because they take scarf.

What's happening now in UK? we can see...We'll get for pulling a Muslim women’s hijab 25 points.


So far, Only one Muslim women with scarf is allowed to become news anchor in Canada...She said:-

“I've talked to many women who are journalists in the US who work behind the scenes and they've told me that they face multiple challenges trying to get on air,” said Massa.

“They've been told because of their hijab, that's not going to happen. That makes me really sad because they're being held back by someone else's idea of what the public can or cannot handle.”


I respect white people. i respect Canada but I don't like when they ride on high moral horse.

You people will be surprised to know that, India, a Hindu majority country, even there women still have some kind of cover on their upper body and I am talking about Hindu women



I don't think they are "oppressed" or "terrorized"

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I personally like veiling...Saving the most beautiful part or body of yours only for your husband (the person who loves or will be loving you the most) rather than satisfying other men's lust.

It doesn't mean I don't respect women who don't take veiling.

It's nice to talk with you :)


It just comes down to choice for me. If a woman chooses a veil, I have no problem with that. If she is forced, then I have an issue. We have boob burqas in Canada. By law, there is no requirement for a woman to cover her breasts, however the vast majority still do, whether due to choice to follow moral traditions, or because to many men a topless woman is seen to be an invitation to sex.

I hang out with lots of topless and naked women We all go camping together. I'm all about ending the boob burqa.


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