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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:50 am
 


Somebody told me once that I "scour the internet" for stories of startling sex relating to Muslims.

I don't believe that's true and considering the obvious fact that I have spent much more time with me than he has, I consider myself the expert on the topic of why I might be doing the things I do, so let me explain.

I believe the way it works is I have my interests. They may differ from others, but they will send me to differing places for information than the types who disagree with me might. I hear and see things at the places I go.

Among my interests are things concerning what I call "counter-Prog" or what the cool kids these days are calling "counter-Regressive". Basically it's against what those labelling themselves by the misnomer "Progressive" might be up to. Also I am interested in the stories told and archived by those calling themselves "counter Jihadi".

Among the stories I hear are stories of startling sex.

I could get off topic here and relate stories of the R/K selective "Bunny-people" of Progdom, but this one is about Islam.

I hear many stories of startling sex and Islam. Many more than I post. The distinctive thing about the startling stories of sex and Islam is the way in which they run counter to the ideals and even standards of Western society. It is a striking example how the culture spinning out of the death cult of Mohammed sets itself up as enemy to the west. I walk past as many such stories as I can, but some simply must be shared.

It's a gigantic topic. I don't have time to get into a lot of the 'why' Islam might do the things it does, but because I am sometimes doubted on the 'what' I will offer support here.

Apparently there have been 3 cases worldwide of representatives of Christianity charged for interfering with children since February 3. It is inferred that this makes the case for the relativistic proposal there is nothing special about the sexual aggression towards and perversion of the standards set by civilized societies in Islam, "cause we all do nasty things."

Right?

No, that's not right. What is coming out of Islam is bound to the teachings of the raping, slave-trading, warlord, pedophile Mohammed and his position in the cult as the "perfect example." (No I did not say "perfect man" so don't waste my time with diversion).

So now let's deal with the facts. 3 cases of child molestation connected to Christianity since February 3: that's shocking and revolting. But it's also a spit in the bucket next to what comes out of Islam. And with Islam there's more to it. I can do better than 3 cases of startling societally disruptive sex I promise you that. In fact that's what I'll prove with this thread.

We'll begin soon, but first we'll get into a little of Islam: why do they do the crazy things they do.

Wait. This is all going to have to appear in intervals. There's just too much 'there' there.


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Apparently there have been 3 cases worldwide of representatives of Christianity charged for interfering with children since February 3.



Do you actually think there's only been 3 since only 3 were posted on CKA? :lol:


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I think you have been "scouring the internet" to make the news page look as sloppy and childish as possible. So far you have found 3 instances worldwide of pedophiles exploiting Christianity, for the same reason, Willy Loman robbed banks, "Cause that's where the money kids are. With Islam it's different.

I'm moving on now to illustrate that. Stay with me. We'll get to you and your attempts at diversion through false equivalency eventually.


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I am curious about all this. I have no doubt that sexual abuse of kids occurs in Muslim countries. I have always thought that it was due to muslims living in areas of the world that are still in the Middle Ages . So, went to the Internet and typed in "sexual abuse in sub Saharan Africa.
First up:http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/publications-a-z/457-sexual-abuse-and-violence-in-sub-saharan-africa
Uganda:
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Both boys and girls can be targets for sexual abuse. In a District in Uganda, 31 percent of school girls and 15 percent of boys report having been sexually abused, many by teachers.9


What is the connection between Muslims and Uganda? Uganda is mostly Christian, and as far as I can see, still in medieval times. Is it religion or the era they think in?


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N_Fiddledog wrote:
I think you have been "scouring the internet" to make the news page look as sloppy and childish as possible. So far you have found 3 instances worldwide of pedophiles exploiting Christianity, for the same reason, Willy Loman robbed banks, "Cause that's where the money kids are. With Islam it's different.

I'm moving on now to illustrate that. Stay with me. We'll get to you and your attempts at diversion through false equivalency eventually.


Coming from the guy that's made it his personal missing to spam CKA with his anti-Muslim commentary, you've got nerve to suggest anyone beyond you has been doing the same.

As much as you don't want to admit it, these types of crimes are far more prevalent in the Christian community than "3 occurrences since Feb 3". Those occurrences were just specifically from a pastor or priest. That doesn't include those of the Christian faith who commit these crimes on a daily basis.

I'm not attempting to divert anything away from the atrocities of Muslims. I will, however, post articles to balance out the news feed to highlight that these types of crimes are not exclusive to one select religious group as you and the other Christians would like us to believe.


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Before I show you just how many instances of sexual insanity spinning out of Islamic ideology and culture there have been since February 3 (trust me there's been more than 3 :wink: ) let's get into motivation a bit.

This one came out on the second of February, but it isn't an example it's more a theory on what motivates aggressive deviance from Western standards in the young Muslim male.

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The Sociologist and Economist, Gunnar Heinsohn, teaching at the NATO Defense College in Rome, has drawn a dismal picture in the Neuen Zürcher Zeitung, of what is to come the citizen’s way in the near future. Heinsohn flew to the Caliph-home of the newcomers, of which he heard nothing good: The mass raping of Yesidi and Christian women, the trafficking of women among young combatants, the beheading of european men, and over and over the proclamation directed at the Kuffar, the unbelievers: “Your women will be our whores, your children our slaves!”

While in traditional societies a wife is gained through the earning of an income which can provide for the family, many unsuccessful youngsters, according to Heinsohn, are permanently stuck in a “roaming- and loot mode”. In other words: When one hundred well to do men each have four wives, then there are three hundred men left with empty hands.

Therefore it is not the war and more the lack of women in their own country, that has driven these youngsters to Europe. For better or for worse, Germany and Austria have therefore to prepare for “agressive migrants with reasonable basic primary care, and time without end on their hands, who – very well connected with their smartphones – will hunt for females within their vicinity, which in turn cannot defend themselves and are left without protection”, says Heinsohn in the Neuen Zürcher Zeitung.


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OK, so I want to leave the above up there isolated, because it's a thing, but it isn't "the thing".

There are many theories as to what the motivating factors are. Isolated they are easily attacked. For example with the above we might ask if the problem in polygamy why aren't other young males of other polygamous societies acting similarly insane.

But Islam is a soup of rotten doctrine. It's not just the moldy cabbage.

Yes there is nasty stuff in the Bible. It's more historical and descriptive. The nasty stuff in Islam is doctrinal.

Joshua might be told to wipe out the existing tribes of the promised land, and Lot might have tossed his daughters into the mob of Sodom for a raping, but it's different in the Islamic texts.

Those are more like manuals. Almost how-to guides. Women are less than men as law in the Sharia. If they are raped, they are guilty of adultery unless they can produce 4 male witnesses. This can still be found even in societies we are told are more moderate like Qatar.

The key doctrinal inculcation in Islam and most dangerous to us might be the bullshit ideological posture of supremacism. Islam is a supremacist doctrine. It's on every page of the koran. You don't have to get into that book too far to realize when they are talking about good and evil the only real standard of separation is believer and unbeliever.

Distrust of the unbeliever and the placement of the believer over the unbeliever in status in the standard prayers. It will follow from this that the unbeliever's worth is only as a thing to be exploited by the believer.

And no "not all". Not all muslims will be pushed into the danger zone by the doctrines of their ideology. There are some bad Muslims who are good people. It's worth noticing though that as the Muslim demographic increases in an area the power of the doctrinal overlords will increase and you'll see more Islamic spun nuttiness coming out of Islam directed to any unlucky enough to live nearby. Look at Europe and see us when our Muslim demographic starts to close in on 5%.

There's much more on this. I just gave you taste of the rotten soup so you know what that rancid odor is that's starting to drift by.

But now let's get into it.

What's been happening since February 3.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:32 pm
 


What did you think of the movie Spotlight Fiddly?


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N_Fiddledog wrote:

This one came out on the second of February, but it isn't an example it's more a theory on what motivates aggressive deviance from Western standards in the young Muslim male.



If the Koran specifically lays out ways for Muslim males to be deviants, how do you explain the sexual deviance of Western Christian men, Priests/Pastors and Ministers epecially?

The Bible doesn't contain the same 'how-to' guides as the Koran so I'm curious why there are so many sexual deviants in the church? Where do they get their instruction?


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So, fiddy wants a comparison of the Koran and the Bible on its treatment of minority's, women, children and goats! He thinks the Koran is worst than the Bible. Ok, could be, I don't know as I have only read the parts of Koran "pre-selected" for my viewing pleasure by himself or some other guy oh his ilk. It's kind of like reading an atheists set of "Bible Quotations." Myself, I'm happy because Christian thought, for the most part , in the 20th and 21st. C. has been dominated by those progtard theologians who thought women and children were not chattel to be used at the pleasure of a father/husband.


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There is usually an article that pops up at least once a year about porn searches. It tends to show that the places with the most religiosity, like the Muslim countries and the bible-belt red states in the US, have more searches for porn than do socially moderate or liberal places. It also shows that these places also tend to have more searches for extreme porn like simulated rape, snuff films, scat, urination, S&M, etc, etc, etc. I put this down on how socially conservative religion of all stripes succeeds through denial and self-righteousness at warping the male brain more than any other kind of indoctrination. It takes something normal and human, makes it forbidden and evil, and then stands in feigned shock as to "what would make these young men behave this way? We need MOAR religion to stop it!", and the cycle merrily continues. Not all religion will do this but extreme religion, the pitiless sort that demonizes anyone that isn't part of it, succeeds only in creating extremists in both politics and personal behaviour.

Nothing normal or good ever has or ever will come out of religious fundamentalism, period, and this is why Islam is the way it is today. That's why letting them in to countries that have long embraced moderation and tolerance of most differences in the end will be nothing but an absolute disaster. This is their programming, their basic operating system so to speak, and it is never going to change. The only real peace will come from permanently separating extremists from moderates and these endless attempts at trying to successfully mix the two strains of thought together remains a hopelessly insane thing to do.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:04 pm
 


But before we start reeling off examples of sexual deviancies spun out of, endorsed or excused by the ideology or cultures of Islam I want to give an example of one that would not apply.

Pakistani-American dentist charged with sexual assault of sedated patient

I saw that one on a counter-jihadi archive site so I'm going to assume he had reason to believe the dentist was a Muslim.

It doesn't matter to me, because it wouldn't apply to what I'm talking about anyway.

It's a guy who saw an opportunity to exploit a position. In this case it was Dentist.

Now it might have been a teacher, or it might have been sports coordinator at a religious center, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking exploiting a situation where cover is offered, or an offence perpetrated just because that's where the victims are.

I'm talking about situations where the ideology specifically can be seen as excuse, authorization or causal motivation for the offense.


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N_Fiddledog wrote:
I'm talking about situations where the ideology specifically can be seen as excuse, authorization or causal motivation for the offense.


If you don't think Christians use their own ideology as an excuse or authorization to do all sorts of wrong, you're quite naive.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:26 pm
 


So let's begin.

As promised there will be more than 3.

On February 3 I read this one in a translation from a German Website.

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Wilhelmsburg – After St. Pauli there is apparently a second location in Hamburg, where multiple young women fall victim to groping and harassment. The target are female students of the vocational school W4 at the Dratelnstraße, where about 2000 mostly female students are trained to become medical, dental or veterinary professionals.

The truth has only become known after the headmistress reported several cases where students were hassled and sexually harassed. Apparently they were sexually solicited on their way to the Train station in Wilhelmsburg by individual men and small groups of men. They were sexually harassed in different ways or prompted to kiss. To put it plainly: The path to the vocational school became a gauntlet for the young women.

The police so far speaks of at least eight cases. But that seems to be only the tip of the iceberg. Inquiries by the responsible police officer for the school has shown that additional numerous similar incidents have taken place, even though only a small part of the students had been surveyed so far.

One student described how she was followed by a group of men all the way to the main train station, where they pushed her up against the wall while other men stood watch and laughed. ”Many other such incidents were described”, according to Chief Inspector Andreas Schöpflin. Almost all incidents took place surrounding the school property. The descriptions of the perpetrators are all nearly identical. They speak little to no german at all, apparently originating from the Middle East or North Africa. It is examined if these men come from the nearby Initial Reception Center at Dratelnstrasse. About 1,400 refugees are placed there.

As for the school, because of the harassment and attacks, it is now under police protection. It has been announced that an increased police presence will take place which includes the deployment of riot police.


http://vladtepesblog.com/2016/02/03/sex ... rotection/

But is that more just a case of exploiting a victim class. Like say the priests in Spotlight? :wink:

It isn't like that and it isn't like that hockey coach who exploited the opportunity hockey opened up to him to get at kids. No, I don't hate hockey, because that opportunity existed.

I say this one in Germany is a case of the religion and the culture that spins from it putting the perps in search of victims. It is not just the perp exploiting the opportunity of the religion as cover.

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Ok:
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/hs/medical/residency/peds/new_compeds_site/pdfs_new/global%20health/sdarticle.pdf

I haven't looked at all this, but I'm sure you will let the "think tank" dissect it and go through all the references and citations. Religion isn't mentioned.


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