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^^ Good stuff.

I've been saying it forever. Unbiased or balanced news is pointless. Just tell us the facts, whatever they may be.

And very few news organizations are capable of that, generally just the state owned ones.


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:


And very few news organizations are capable of that, generally just the state owned ones.


You mean like Pravda. :?:


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PluggyRug PluggyRug:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:


And very few news organizations are capable of that, generally just the state owned ones.


You mean like Pravda. :?:


I'm not sure which one of you is joking.

Without clicking the link yet, though, I know the answer to the question in the title:

" The Truth About Unbiased News"

There is no such thing.


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I've never known any state run news org to be unbiased. Even if they factually report most stories what they typically do is refuse to report ANY story that casts the government in a bad light.

It's not an obvious bias yet it is a bias by omission.


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2020 3:32 pm
 


Furthering Bart's comment...

Facts don't make as much difference as you think.

Fact: "99% of all UFO sightings are fake."
Fact: "1% of all UFO sightings remain unexplained."

Both use the same fact, to different effect.


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2020 4:00 pm
 


Biased news is just news you don't agree with.


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2020 4:17 pm
 


Could care less about bias. It's when unhinged and unapologetic lying gets considered as "news" by the gullibles who eat it up that I get pissed off.


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:53 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I've never known any state run news org to be unbiased. Even if they factually report most stories what they typically do is refuse to report ANY story that casts the government in a bad light.

It's not an obvious bias yet it is a bias by omission.


So, when a state run news organization is not only critical of the government, but actually goes out of its way to dig up information critical of the government, is that bias or bias by omission?

I'm thinking things like the Sponsorship Scandal, HRDC scandal, SNC Lavalin/Judy Wilson Raybold scandal, Trudeau Black/Brown face scandal . . .


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I've never known any state run news org to be unbiased. Even if they factually report most stories what they typically do is refuse to report ANY story that casts the government in a bad light.

It's not an obvious bias yet it is a bias by omission.


So, when a state run news organization is not only critical of the government, but actually goes out of its way to dig up information critical of the government, is that bias or bias by omission?

I'm thinking things like the Sponsorship Scandal, HRDC scandal, SNC Lavalin/Judy Wilson Raybold scandal, Trudeau Black/Brown face scandal . . .


If CBC were to come out with Justin Trudeau and a real estate scandal I'd be interested but I'd also be suspect that they were going with the real estate scandal to distract from something even worse.

No offense to CBC, it's just I've been around enough to know how governments work.

Example: China in 2008 flooded their national media with news about the Olympics and some of it was critical, such as revelations that the fireworks displays were CGI. That was blown up into a bigger deal than was necessary.

Turns out that scandal distracted from the slaughter of some 300,000 Uighurs that was going on at the same time. :idea:


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:

So, when a state run news organization is not only critical of the government, but actually goes out of its way to dig up information critical of the government, is that bias or bias by omission?

I'm thinking things like the Sponsorship Scandal, HRDC scandal, SNC Lavalin/Judy Wilson Raybold scandal, Trudeau Black/Brown face scandal . . .


If CBC were to come out with Justin Trudeau and a real estate scandal I'd be interested but I'd also be suspect that they were going with the real estate scandal to distract from something even worse.

No offense to CBC, it's just I've been around enough to know how governments work.


I don't mean China, I mean CBC, NPR, DW, BBC . . . organizations that have a long history of reporting facts, regardless of how it makes their governments look. And CBC has reported on many things that make Trudeau look like an ass. And Harper before him. And Cretien before him.

But like Ray wrote, people only seem to remember when it's about stories they don't like.

And no offense, but that's how your government works. Most other governments aren't comparable, because of the nature of media ownership, as the video pointed out. ;) When the media is state funded and independent, that changes the game.


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