[Bibbi]

Yogi wrote:

Bibbi wrote:

Actually there are inconsistencies related to the brain. In-head injuries(no external hit) and diffuse axonal injury (brain whiplash) will result in severe brain damage that causes a coma, but there are records of people with massive brain injuries that have been conscious and thinking. One gentleman survived a metal pole being shot through his head and brain in an explosion that went wrong in a mine. So, the thinking is that the consciousness did in fact pop back into the body in the "deaths" I mentioned. (By the way, I am neutral on this stuff in terms of attitude, I just find it interesting.)

As to consciousness having weight, that does sound rather weird when you think about it. On the other hand, I have certainly not experienced euphoria from oxygen deprivation and I doubt that anyone else has either. Lungs that threaten to burst and seeing spots before your eyes is hardly euphoria. Dr. Louis Rhine's studies on ESP, Cayce, Geller and others with apparent extra-ordinary abilities are worth checking out. Psychics do exist, but a lot fewer of them, than the numbers who profess to be so inclined. Beyond that, I draw no other conclusions pro or con related to an after life.

Your post is typical of one who because they personally have not experienced a particular situation then it just is not possible. Society has conditioned us to believe that anything we don't understand is not only 'not possible', but improbable, couldn't happen, must be a 'whack-job' etc.
I have personally experienced some of the things mentioned here, sufficient to give me a very strong belief in 'near death' and 'life after death'. None drug induced!

Hey, there Yogi. I did not say that 'life after death' is not possible. The truth is that I won't know until I get there. At the moment I understand both points of view.

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A psychic phenomenon has to be proven it exists first before science can explain why it exists. As far as I know ALL psychic phenomena has been explained as a hoax, naturally occurring phenomena or delusions/hysteria. Since psychics cannot reproduce the same or similar effect over again for the process of study it loses its scientific merit.

[CanadianJeff]

A bit late in the topic but personally I think that no one has proven jack all so anything is possible.

there is no proof for or against god, reincarnation, rebirth by Karma, etc.

I follow Catholic teaching for the most part because there is a lot of wisdom in how things are taught and it's the only organization I've seen where it is part of the written law by the Vatican to respect other religions.

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CanadianJeff wrote:

A bit late in the topic but personally I think that no one has proven jack all so anything is possible.

Are you saying it is possible that you just cease to be when you die?

[Heavy_Metal]

what happens when we die?.....we rot....

[Bibbi]

Eisensapper wrote:

Here is a little bit of what science brings to the life after death argument.

Interesting! The English version is really in the first two sentences. They don't really know for sure, bu they have a working hypothesis. Their hypothesis is not unreasonable but still open to work and discussion by others.

[Bibbi]

Proof is in the eye of the beholder and anything can be rationalized away as delusion, magic, or any other excuse. It is not possible to prove precisely what happens at death and equally not possible to prove what doesn't happen (depending on your point of view.)

There are suggestions and indications either pro or con that are accepted or rejected by individuals based on either their sense of logic or their beliefs.