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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:48 pm
 


In the end, I'm more worried about SO2 and CFC emissions than I am with CO2. they pose a more immediate threat to humanity and other life.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:53 pm
 


eureka wrote:

Just to pick one point, though. The claim is that there has been no warming in the past decade. How is it then that the past decade is the warmest in the record? How is it that 2005 and 2010 are the two warmest years in the record?

And, if warming is not real, why have the last 35 years ALL been warmer than the average of the record?


How much has the planet warmed due to global warming? 0.7 degrees?
How much warmer is it in Canada, 20 degrees difference?

I'm thinking the two are unrelated....

Besides, not every country is seeing the warming trend we are seeing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:57 pm
 


Here is an idea.... Want to curb CO2? Plant trees!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:09 pm
 


1Peg wrote:
Here is an idea.... Want to curb CO2? Plant trees!


Imagine how much CO2 emissions could be curbed if eureka stopped breathing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:11 pm
 


None...he's a methane producer


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:24 pm
 


1Peg wrote:
eureka wrote:

Just to pick one point, though. The claim is that there has been no warming in the past decade. How is it then that the past decade is the warmest in the record? How is it that 2005 and 2010 are the two warmest years in the record?

And, if warming is not real, why have the last 35 years ALL been warmer than the average of the record?


How much has the planet warmed due to global warming? 0.7 degrees?
How much warmer is it in Canada, 20 degrees difference?

I'm thinking the two are unrelated....

Besides, not every country is seeing the warming trend we are seeing.


It has warmed almost one full degree since 1850. A little less from the 1880 date that is usually cited as the beginning of instrumental records.

That is almost as much as at the height of the last Interglacial but it is now increasing at almost .2C each decade.

That means that in a forty or fifty years, the global mean will be higher than at any time in more than three million years and still climbing.

And every country IS seeing a warming trend. This is Global.

Canada, btw, is not 20 degrees warmer. It is more than the global average but that is because the Arctic is much more while Western Canada is not much higher.

Planting trees, billions of them, would repair one of the carbon sinks and help with some of the emissions. Not nearly enough to halt the destruction of the oceans as the largest sink or to prevent their increasing acidification and slow death.

Also, methane is now joining the queue and methane while much more potent than C)2 oxidises into CO2 in about ten years. Its release is one of the feedbacks from CO2 warming that points to fun times ahead.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:39 am
 


eureka wrote:
Canada, btw, is not 20 degrees warmer. It is more than the global average but that is because the Arctic is much more while Western Canada is not much higher.




The average low for Edmonton, Alberta is -18 for for month of January going back 30 years... Today in Edmonton +5... If you go back 40 years the average temperatures are even colder.

We have very mild winters now and cooler summers, in Edmonton anyway.

Again, global warming and the warming conditions were seeing now are two different things.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:12 am
 


eureka wrote:

Planting trees, billions of them, would repair one of the carbon sinks and help with some of the emissions. Not nearly enough to halt the destruction of the oceans as the largest sink or to prevent their increasing acidification and slow death.



Planting billions of trees is just a start, in western Canada.


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