Based on my experience with the company supplied Blackberry Torch I've been using for a few months... I wouldn't buy any stock in RIM. It's the worst phone I've ever owned. It freezes on a regular basis so i need to pull the battery out and and restart it. It cheek-mutes all the time. It's been sending text mshs to the wrong people. including people I don't know. The browser is slow most of the time. The apps suck. Terrible terrible phone. My boss and I are both trying to talk the company into iPhones.
That's why I use the Bold 9780 for work it's one of RIM's top phones. IPhones are great as I have one for personal use but when it comes to work, email, etc BlackBerry's win. Look at the Bold 9790 for your work.
I can slide the back off my BB, pop out the micro SD card, put in another one and replace the battery. I can put that card into my ASUS transformer tablet, and play movies off the card, at the same time I am surfing via 3g or WiFi.
I wonder why the BB and Android are considered disadvantaged, when the iPhone and iPad can't do that?
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:59 am
Mr_Canada wrote:
BRAH wrote:
Email, text, strong reception, reliable, long lasting battery, pure work phone.
I never understood that statement... My Android works so well with email that I barely even use my physical desktop computer to access my gmail anymore.
One of BlackBerry's strengths over the competitors is it's email and security for business.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:04 am
BRAH wrote:
Mr_Canada wrote:
BRAH wrote:
Email, text, strong reception, reliable, long lasting battery, pure work phone.
I never understood that statement... My Android works so well with email that I barely even use my physical desktop computer to access my gmail anymore.
One of BlackBerry's strengths over the competitors is it's email and security for business.
Sure sure, security (I guess?)
But e-mail works fine on my phone... How can e-mail be any *better*?
BRAH
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:11 am
DrCaleb wrote:
BRAH wrote:
Unsound wrote:
Based on my experience with the company supplied Blackberry Torch I've been using for a few months... I wouldn't buy any stock in RIM. It's the worst phone I've ever owned. It freezes on a regular basis so i need to pull the battery out and and restart it. It cheek-mutes all the time. It's been sending text mshs to the wrong people. including people I don't know. The browser is slow most of the time. The apps suck. Terrible terrible phone. My boss and I are both trying to talk the company into iPhones.
That's why I use the Bold 9780 for work it's one of RIM's top phones. IPhones are great as I have one for personal use but when it comes to work, email, etc BlackBerry's win. Look at the Bold 9790 for your work.
I can slide the back off my BB, pop out the micro SD card, put in another one and replace the battery. I can put that card into my ASUS transformer tablet, and play movies off the card, at the same time I am surfing via 3g or WiFi.
I wonder why the BB and Android are considered disadvantaged, when the iPhone and iPad can't do that?
I looked at a Playbook when they first came out and the sales guy actually tried to scare me off because it didn't have the capability of operating on it's own data plan as it was intended to sync with your BlackBerry's data plan.
The IPhone and IPad of not having the option to change the battery or micro sd card is they're way of always having you come back to the Apple store.
RIM stock value has apparently gone up a bit after refusing a take over offer so if this continues it's a sign the average investor is ignoring the clear Media's desire to see RIM crash and burn.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:21 am
Mr_Canada wrote:
BRAH wrote:
Mr_Canada wrote:
I never understood that statement... My Android works so well with email that I barely even use my physical desktop computer to access my gmail anymore.
One of BlackBerry's strengths over the competitors is it's email and security for business.
Sure sure, security (I guess?)
But e-mail works fine on my phone... How can e-mail be any *better*?
Because you can read your internal *work* email on your BB, as if you were reading it on your desktop.
No internet involvement. Therefore, little risk of emails being intercepted. A big plus for companies that wish to keep trade secrets, secret.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:25 am
DrCaleb wrote:
Because you can read your internal *work* email on your BB, as if you were reading it on your desktop.
No internet involvement. Therefore, little risk of emails being intercepted. A big plus for companies that wish to keep trade secrets, secret.
How the shit is that even possible?
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:55 am
Mr_Canada wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
Because you can read your internal *work* email on your BB, as if you were reading it on your desktop.
No internet involvement. Therefore, little risk of emails being intercepted. A big plus for companies that wish to keep trade secrets, secret.
How the shit is that even possible?
We used to do it all the time, before this 'internet' fad caught on. It's called 'dedicated networks'. These have data connections from point A to point B, and never touch the internet. Quite common.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:57 am
Well shit that sounds brilliant.
They should make an app for that on Android. I'm down for some secret non-internet e-mail conversations.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:52 pm
Mr_Canada wrote:
Well shit that sounds brilliant.
They should make an app for that on Android. I'm down for some secret non-internet e-mail conversations.
Can't.
In a corporate environment, you have an internal email server(s). Then you install a BB server, and assign people who have access to it. Your internal sends BB information to that server, and it sends data to RIM, and they send it securely through telcom companies wireless networks to your handheld device.
Android has no such infrastructure. It would be trivial for Google to build such stuff, but they haven't yet.
BB also has Messenger. Ever had to send an SMS to more than one person? I can create a BBM group (no charge), present a barcode on my screen that other BBs can photograph, and get all the info for my BBM group. Then they are part of the group. (I can email that barcode too, in case the BB is not physically near me) It sends encrypted text to all memebers of the group at the same time.
That is why governments fear BlackBerry.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:58 pm
I can text over WiFi for free...
Okay that's pretty neat.
I have absolutely no need for it though.
So I guess the corporate nerds and government dweebs can keep their BBs, I'm going to play Coin Dozer
BRAH
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:22 pm
DrCaleb wrote:
Mr_Canada wrote:
Well shit that sounds brilliant.
They should make an app for that on Android. I'm down for some secret non-internet e-mail conversations.
Can't.
In a corporate environment, you have an internal email server(s). Then you install a BB server, and assign people who have access to it. Your internal sends BB information to that server, and it sends data to RIM, and they send it securely through telcom companies wireless networks to your handheld device.
Android has no such infrastructure. It would be trivial for Google to build such stuff, but they haven't yet.
BB also has Messenger. Ever had to send an SMS to more than one person? I can create a BBM group (no charge), present a barcode on my screen that other BBs can photograph, and get all the info for my BBM group. Then they are part of the group. (I can email that barcode too, in case the BB is not physically near me) It sends encrypted text to all memebers of the group at the same time.
That is why governments fear BlackBerry.
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