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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:53 am
 


You can say what you want about Glen Beck, but one thing you have to admit. He finds interesting stuff to talk about. Here's one on CO2 scrubbers. I hadn't even heard about this story until Beck found it. It's really worth a little thought.



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:16 pm
 


Fuckin' nailed it.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:13 am
 


Tracker wrote:
Fuckin' nailed it.


Nailed what? He got the 'let's not overreact' part down right. But C02 scrubbers?

In Canada, we call them 'trees'. Less maintenance too.


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DrCaleb wrote:
Tracker wrote:
Fuckin' nailed it.


Nailed what? He got the 'let's not overreact' part down right. But C02 scrubbers?

In Canada, we call them 'trees'. Less maintenance too.


I love trees.But I'm not a tree hugger. I like to burn them. but I like the idea of planting more than we burn.

trees could work,

but if we are currently having CO2 problems, then we obviously don't have enough trees, do we?


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Aging_Redneck wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
Nailed what? He got the 'let's not overreact' part down right. But C02 scrubbers?

In Canada, we call them 'trees'. Less maintenance too.


I love trees.But I'm not a tree hugger. I like to burn them. but I like the idea of planting more than we burn.

trees could work,

but if we are currently having CO2 problems, then we obviously don't have enough trees, do we?


I'm not a hugger ether. I just like things that function as intended, elegantly designed things. Trees are designed to do exactly what CO2 scrubbers are designed to do, and considerably cheaper. And after a couple decades of flawless operation, you can use them for building materials and sports equipment. It's the old "Americans spend $1B to make a pen that writes upside down; Russians use a pencil" syndrome.

Why throw so much money at a problem that nature already solved?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:36 am
 


Why throw so much money at something that isn't a problem at all?


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One question that I have about trees, are they truly scrubbers?

What is the net CO2 scrubbing once the tree dies and completely decomposes along with all of it's leaves over the course of it's life?

Do the numbers balance, or is there some sort of carbon deposit in soil?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:21 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
Tracker wrote:
Fuckin' nailed it.


Nailed what? He got the 'let's not overreact' part down right. But C02 scrubbers?

In Canada, we call them 'trees'. Less maintenance too.

People driven by greed and control part.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:49 pm
 


Aging_Redneck wrote:
One question that I have about trees, are they truly scrubbers?

What is the net CO2 scrubbing once the tree dies and completely decomposes along with all of it's leaves over the course of it's life?

Do the numbers balance, or is there some sort of carbon deposit in soil?


I don't think there are actual studies; all I've ever seen is anecdotal and conflicting opinions. Some will tell you that CO2 and other gases such as methane are emitted, making it worse on the environment than the tree itself. Others are more rational, and point out the tree is not a closed system - now there are termites and ants and birds and other plants that are using the biomass created by the composting tree. And since it evolved to be that way, how can it have a net negative effect on the environment?

In my eyes, you started with a little seed, and now there is a huge mass. It came from somewhere, so there must be a net extraction from the environment. The tree took in a lot of CO2's, kept the C's and gave back an awful lot of O2's. Has to be better and cheaper than a man made contraption. And since it evolved doing that function, it also has to be more environmentally friendly than the man-made contraption.

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People driven by greed and control part.


Yup. The whole carbon trading scam convinced me a long time ago that it's not about pollution reduction or changing our impact on the environment in any way, it's about turning a worthless gas into something with value and selling it to satisfy the mutated progressive economics that passes for truth these days.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:33 pm
 


Turning Old(or mature) Trees into Furniture, Homes, and other Products is a ood way to "lock" CO2 up.


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